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re: Would the strait being really closed, to all traffic, be bad for the US?

Posted on 4/5/26 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 4:00 pm to
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Why?


The entire Asia Pacific region relies on crude oil from the ME. Most of the Australian refineries have been closed and demolished over the last 15 years. In large that is due their very low productivity. Unions control all political parties. Their entire labor force is lazy AF. It was cheaper to get refined products from Singapore, ME, China, Japan and South Korea. Not enough oil for these refineries means no products for Australia.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30462 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 5:59 pm to
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Higher prices due to supply and demand is not inflation.


WTF?

I am pretty sure I remember "demand-pull inflation" and "cost-push inflation" from macro.

In any case, what exactly causes inflation in your econ textbook?
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20259 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:09 pm to
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In any case, what exactly causes inflation in your econ textbook?


Increased money supply. Meaning government printing money causes inflation.

Your textbook lesson
This post was edited on 4/11/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Usmc
Member since Oct 2024
492 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 3:07 pm to
It would hurt for a while. Eventually if the 20% was able to be made up elsewhere the market should stabilize like before. Then you run into the crash if, and when it opens back up.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55497 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 3:11 pm to
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Wouldn’t this mean we would sell more oil at higher prices?

Yes, but there is a lot of trade besides oil through that Strait, and closing it would be bad for everyone. Temporarily closing it is another matter.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30462 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 3:18 pm to
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Increased money supply. Meaning government printing money causes inflation.

Your textbook lesson


You remind me of Clark in the bar when Will says: "You're a first year grad student. You just got finished readin' some Marxian historian—Pete Garrison probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'til next month when you get to James Lemon, and then you're gonna be talkin' about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740".

Neoclassical/neoliberal economists like Friedman have been proven far too simplistic. Next month I suggest some Nitzan.

Inflation isn't as simple as Friedman's quantitative theory of money would have one believe. Don't get caught up in the F-twist. His theory breaks down with just a minor bit of thought. In Friedman's world, inflation would impact all goods and services simultaneously and evenly. We all know that is just false.

If you are going to give textbook lessons, at least reference something written recently and truly consider his neoliberal approach. Keep in mind, Friedman did not care about the realism of his assumptions, just the predictive power. In fairness, he came up with his theories more than 70 years ago at a time when large data was near impossible to assemble and was impossible to crunch. He came up with a theory that has a high level of correlation and felt that was enough, and causation was irrelevant.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134885 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 3:22 pm to
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be bad for the US?
The U.S. stock market sure thinks it is...
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