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re: With Rape and Incest, Why Incest?
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:16 pm to OldHickory
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:16 pm to OldHickory
A resident of one southern state laughing about another southern state is like being the smartest kid with Down’s syndrome.
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:16 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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If every kid whose biological father was a criminal and/or rapist was killed, we'd need more mass graves than the Nazis.
Meh. Consent is one of the foundations of our society and legal system. If the woman didn’t consent to the intercourse, I have a hard time forcing her to live with the consequences of said intercourse.
frick the incest exception though. Anything involving minors is covered by a rape exception. And threats to maternal health are also already covered.
If two related adults consensually frick, they should have to deal with the potential consequences of their bad decisions.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:23 pm to Atom Knab
Both are murder.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:35 pm to rooster108bm
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Both are murder.
Soldiers kill people all the time. You ok with that murder?
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:40 pm to Atom Knab
Because that helps it be more fake and justifiable.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:43 pm to Indefatigable
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Consent is one of the foundations of our society and legal system. If the woman didn’t consent to the intercourse, I have a hard time forcing her to live with the consequences of said intercourse.
If she can't live with the consequences, she can give the child up for adoption.
I know one guy a little younger than my parents who was a product of rape prior to Roe. His mother did not run around saying she regretted not killing him.
Compounding one tragedy with a second one doesn't seem to be helping out the victim very much.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:46 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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If she can't live with the consequences, she can give the child up for adoption.
And if she can live with the consequences of abortion you are ok with that?
Explain why a woman should risk dying having a baby forced on her?
How is killing one baby different than a soldier killing somebody in a war? If all life is equal wouldn't you be equally against both.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:49 pm to Atom Knab
Neither are good reasons for an abortion. There is no good reason to murder your preborn child.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:49 pm to mahdragonz
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Explain why a woman should risk dying having a baby forced on her?
The amount of pregnancies in the 21st century that constitute a genuine threat of life to a woman is miniscule, and I am quite certain you're aware of that but want to use some emotionally charged language to try to justify killing a child.
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How is killing one baby different than a soldier killing somebody in a war? If all life is equal wouldn't you be equally against both.
As an anarcho-capitalist, I'm against the very idea of the state as it exists, much less state-sanctioned violent actions.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:51 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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If she can't live with the consequences, she can give the child up for adoption.
The ten months of pregnancy are part of the consequences.
A woman who didn’t consent to undergoing that process and those risks should not be forced by the state to do so.
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His mother did not run around saying she regretted not killing him.
Good for her. I mean that. Doesn’t mean I agree with forcing women to live with the consequences of rape though. That should be their choice.
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Compounding one tragedy with a second one doesn't seem to be helping out the victim very much.
The only person qualified to make that determination is the victim.
We’re arguing over an incredibly small percentage of cases. Absolutely microscopic in the scheme of things. If rape and maternal health were the only exceptions, abortion would not even be a mainstream political issue. Those two exceptions have 70%+ approval from the public.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:54 pm to OldHickory
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If incest was a reason to terminate, there’d be no babies born in the entire state of Alabama.
Ahh so it would be the same birth rate for the same reason as your trailer park then?
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:56 pm to Atom Knab
The south gets claim for incest but it’s prevalent in urban areas up north as well as rural. Sick mofo’s are sick
Posted on 4/17/23 at 6:58 pm to Indefatigable
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The only person qualified to make that determination is the victim.
Which victim? The rape victim or the murder victim?
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We’re arguing over an incredibly small percentage of cases. Absolutely microscopic in the scheme of things. If rape and maternal health were the only exceptions, abortion would not even be a mainstream political issue. Those two exceptions have 70%+ approval from the public.
Of course, but there are a lot fewer people than that who agree with me that the state needs to be entirely abolished. I operate under a consistent philosphical ethic, not what is popular to voters.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:00 pm to Atom Knab
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:06 pm to Atom Knab
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the rape aspect of the argument
One justification for abortion in the event of rape is never discussed, but should be: inheritance. Certainly the offspring of a rapist father would inherit the character/ personality flaw that impelled that action in the first place.
We need a kinder, gentler more thoughtful generation-- not one running rampant with rapists or other violent criminal trash.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:06 pm to Atom Knab
It sounds better to have two categories of exceptions instead of just one. For promotional purposes.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:11 pm to tarzana
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Certainly the offspring of a rapist father would inherit the character/ personality flaw that impelled that action in the first place.
You’re such an awful troll.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:12 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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Which victim? The rape victim or the murder victim? quote:
The rape victim. Like I said, it’s about consent for me when it comes to rape. I do not believe that the state should be in the business of forced pregnancy. Obviously that comes with a very difficult choice for the mother—but it should be her choice.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 7:57 pm to Indefatigable
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an awful troll
So you don't agree with what I wrote?
Certainly a man who commits rape has a personality disorder, and would pass that genetic trait to his offspring. Personality traits are just as much inherited as eye color or the sickle-cell trait.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 8:00 pm to Atom Knab
What a nauseating topic....
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