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Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by BillyBobBurreaux
St. George, LA
Member since Dec 2019
44 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:09 pm to
Private schools, specifically Catholic, will raise their tuitions to match this. They aren’t going to let families get this government check without getting “their cut”.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14983 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:09 pm to
I doubt they slow walk it.

But who will be eligible, who gets priority, and how much they get are all questions BESE has to answer.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78347 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:12 pm to
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But who will be eligible, who gets priority, and how much they get are all questions BESE has to answer
The previous categories of $12,000 for special needs, about $7500 for the poorer and $5200 for everyone else is not what's going to happen?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14983 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:30 pm to
Not necessarily
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20280 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:34 pm to
It may take 5-10 years but government money will do what government money does,

Raise the price and lower the quality.

It’s a tale as old as time.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:40 pm to
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But who will be eligible, who gets priority, and how much they get are all questions BESE has to answer.


So a half elected board is going to write the rules for a program that could undermine the very schools they are supposed to oversee?

That’s gonna be wild
Posted by tigersaint26
In front of my computer
Member since Sep 2005
1581 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:42 pm to
My question is this: At what point does the money go to the private school? Oct 1, Nov 1, when? Because after that date they can dismiss the student from school, keep the money and then the student goes back to a public school who gets no money for the kid.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78347 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:48 pm to
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the student goes back to a public school who gets no money for the kid
You don't actually think they're going to remove the dollars for individual students from the public school they leave, do you?
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
1006 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:57 pm to
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It may take 5-10 years but government money will do what government money does, Raise the price and lower the quality. It’s a tale as old as time.

We should prohibit the use of taxes to fund education. Our children are too important to have the government interfere in their education.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:01 pm to
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We should prohibit the use of taxes to fund education. Our children are too important to have the government interfere in their education.


70% of LA children would not receive an education.

And we can sit here and say it’s the responsibility of parents, but half of parents can’t feed their kids without government money. Just being realistic
Posted by Cajun Tigah
Tennessee Mountains
Member since Jan 2005
4071 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:03 pm to
Everyone is worried about what’s going to happen to private schools, if were in your shoes I’d be more worried about what your private school is going to do to your tuition.

There are only a limited number of openings in the existing schools and any of the “filth” will have to meet and adhere to their standards. What this will do is encourage more school opportunities for kids so maybe we can break the cycle of a poor uneducated populace.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78347 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:38 pm to
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Everyone is worried about what’s going to happen to private schools, if were in your shoes I’d be more worried about what your private school is going to do to your tuition
Why not both?

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so maybe we can break the cycle of a poor uneducated populace
You'd need a major cultural shift amongst the poor...of any race.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4120 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:08 pm to
There are quite a few stupid takes throughout this short thread.

1) not all private schools are religious schools.

2) not all private schools will raise their tuition to capture the full amount of the scholarship. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that most will raise their prices only to cover what additional responsibilities and costs are associated with participating in the scholarship program. I do look for schools to encourage (not require) more donations from the student families. I do expect private schools to be more selective in who they take in as students. This is natural since the pool of student who can now attend will grow substantially.

3) this will force public schools to be honest and take seriously their mission of educating their students and not passing every kid or not reporting kids for bad behavior or not expelling kids because it effects their score. Parents who value their kids education will remove their kids from schools where their kids education isn’t valued. The public schools who don’t value their kids education will rightly fail and be taking over by an administration that does value education. Problem students will be forced to attend schools that specialize if rehabilitating problem students.

4) the results of the above will benefit all students, families, businesses, communities, and the state. It will attract more businesses to move here. It will provide for an education suited to each individual student. It will provide a suitable workforce for all communities. It will ease burdens on families financially and socially which will spur greater economic development.

5) it will restore a basic moral fabric and encourage a greater sense of community including the family unit.

6) finally, it will result in less crime and ultimately raise the lower class and at minimum provide an opportunity for all children to support and sustain themselves as adults and not rely on government handouts. This will ultimately ease the tax burden on all and ease the necessity for government programs/spending and allowing tax money to be spent on better infrastructure such as roads, bridges, safe drinking water, internet accessibility, sewerage system upgrades, and energy redundancy/withstanding severe weather.

You can complain all you want about who ultimately gets the money and how it will be spent but the amount of positives greatly outweigh your concerns with some religious school receiving tax dollars instead of some government school indoctrination camp.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19559 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:10 pm to
Most private schools have admission requirements
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14983 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:16 pm to
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So a half elected board is going to write the rules for a program that could undermine the very schools they are supposed to oversee?

That’s gonna be wild


Well, after the rules are written the legislature then decides if they want to fund the program and at what level.
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
1006 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:27 pm to
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70% of LA children would not receive an education.

Uh, they’re not receiving one right now. And I don’t mean that to be hyperbolic - all of these kids are worse for sitting in Louisiana public schools for 20 years.

Public schools have one and only one purpose: maintain a payroll for urban and rural trash.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78347 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:24 pm to
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2) not all private schools will raise their tuition to capture the full amount of the scholarship. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that most will raise their prices only to cover what additional responsibilities

Oh sure, sure. And what are those additional responsibilities tied to this state money?

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3) this will force public schools to be honest and take seriously their mission of educating their students



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4) the results of the above will benefit all students, families, businesses, communities, and the state. It will attract more businesses to move here. It will provide for an education suited to each individual student


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5) it will restore a basic moral fabric and encourage a greater sense of community including the family unit
WTF? More

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There are quite a few stupid takes throughout this short thread
Yours is a naive, pie in the sky post. Nobody can actually believe what you posted.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3402 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:40 am to
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Private schools, specifically Catholic, will raise their tuitions to match this. They aren’t going to let families get this government check without getting “their cut”.


There may be less out of pocket costs and better quality offered by the school. But there will be out of pocket costs.

If you already go private this is a win until some Democrat comes in and limits it only to their specific constituents and cuts everyone else out of it. Or adds way too many strings to accepting that money.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12650 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:02 am to
This is how it will play out:
The good private schools wont accept the vouchers because they come with government strings attached. Nothing will change there except maybe tuition increases and more cherry picking of the best students.
Struggling private schools will get an influx of students to float the bills, but they wont be the students that will turn the schools around. These schools will continue their downward spiral.
Public schools will lose some decent students and funding and will be hit the hardest. The kids ruining the public schools will still be there and they’ll continue to get overrun with illegal immigrants.
Charter schools will pop up around the state. Those in good areas will do ok, those in bad areas will be money-grabs and as bad as the publlic schools within 5-10 years.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 11:38 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40281 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:05 am to
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And I don’t mean that to be hyperbolic


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Public schools have one and only one purpose: maintain a payroll for urban and rural trash.


Ok
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