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re: Wisconson Judge who promoted Drag Queen Story Hour Arrested
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:58 pm to RaginCajunz
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:58 pm to RaginCajunz
Statism means restricting the lives of 99 people who are doing nothing wrong, in order to prevent one bad actor from transgressing.
Freedom means catching and punishing one bad actor so that the other 99 can live their lives as they choose, without harming others.
Yeah, someone will probably get hurt in the second scenario. That foreseeable injury is a price of freedom.
If you are not willing to accept that price, that is fine. Just be willing to admit who and what you are. A supporter of the nanny state.
Freedom means catching and punishing one bad actor so that the other 99 can live their lives as they choose, without harming others.
Yeah, someone will probably get hurt in the second scenario. That foreseeable injury is a price of freedom.
If you are not willing to accept that price, that is fine. Just be willing to admit who and what you are. A supporter of the nanny state.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 1:01 pm
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:04 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Statism means restricting the lives of 99 people who are doing nothing wrong, in order to prevent one bad actor from transgressing.
Freedom means catching and punishing one bad actor so that the other 99 can live their lives as they choose, without harming others.
Yeah, someone will probably get hurt in the second scenario. That foreseeable injury is a price of freedom.
If you are not willing to accept that price, that is fine. Just be willing to admit who and what you are. A supporter of the nanny state.
WUT
Being not surprised a guy pushing drag queen read along time for children having a sexual proclivity towards children (and their abuse) is supporting a nanny state?
I'm not sure I follow your logic. People should be encouraged to celebrate pedophilia because it's ok if 99% don't engage in the behavior?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:06 pm to AggieHank86
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A supporter of the nanny state.
Uh, so you think letting people with mental illness have access to kids is a good idea and you think folks that are against it support a "nanny state"?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:07 pm to RaginCajunz
quote:What an odd take.
People should be encouraged to celebrate pedophilia because it's ok if 99% don't engage in the behavior?
No, the analogy would be that 99% of TG folks are probably not pedophiles.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:07 pm to The Maj
quote:
Uh, so you think letting people with mental illness have access to kids is a good idea and you think folks that are against it support a "nanny state"?
I think at this point he can't believe the shite he posts. Just trolling.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:11 pm to RaginCajunz
I’d post ‘Won’t somebody think of the children” but clearly, they’re Dems.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:12 pm to The Maj
quote:No.
so you think letting people with mental illness have access to kids is a good idea and you think folks that are against it support a "nanny state"?
It is not the role of government to "let" anyone do anything, though it can be argued that government DOES have a role in "preventing" certain behaviors. I submit that such role, however, should be VERY, VERY limited.
When government (rather than parents) makes child-rearing decisions, yes, that is the "nanny state." If a parent does not want a child attending these events, don't take them.
Change "drag" in this story for some behavior that you DO approve (e.g. 2A rights story hour), and ask yourself whether you would oppose the activity. Would your view change if it turns out that one (of the thousands) of the "2A readers" had engaged in gun crime?
Now, ask yourself whether your beliefs are internally-consistent. I can answer "yes" to that question in every instance, because I do not assess "rights" based upon my personal like or dislike for a given behavior.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:13 pm to RaginCajunz
quote:No, he is just one of those rare people who is consistent in his views regarding the relationship between citizens and government ... even when he disagrees with some of the things that some of the people might be doing.
I think at this point he can't believe the shite he posts. Just trolling.
I understand. Consistency can be confusing to faux conservatives.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:15 pm to AggieHank86
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DOES have a role in "preventing" certain behaviors.
You realize to coach little league, you have to go through a background check, right? This is normally required by the city or in some cases the State which sponsors the league...
Now, reckon why they require such?
I understand the point you are trying to make BUT there is no way in hell that mentally ill people should be allowed access to children in ANY manner for any reason...
You are twisting reason to try to make the square peg fit in the round hole...
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:18 pm to The Maj
quote:And it would be entirely reasonable to require a similar background check for readers at library story hours, for exactly the same reasons. Not ENTIRELY libertarian, but certainly reasonable.
You realize to coach little league, you have to go through a background check, right? This is normally required by the city or in some cases the State which sponsors the league...
Now, reckon why they require such?
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:21 pm to RaginCajunz
He and his husband adopted two young boys, according to the article.
Wonder how carefult the adopting agency was with them?
Wonder how carefult the adopting agency was with them?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:24 pm to The Maj
The last good thing to come out of Somalia was when US Coalition forces pulled out after Operation Restore Hope.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:27 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
When government (rather than parents) makes child-rearing decisions, yes, that is the "nanny state." If a parent does not want a child attending these events, don't take them.
I think most took direct issue with these drag queen read alongs occurring at public libraries and similar governmental facilities.
We can agree to disagree with the mental standing of someone who thinks this is a good idea around children.
I say unstable at the least. Mentally ill most likely. To be co-signed by the government in its facilities. No. They should be allowed to do the read-alongs if they choose at private businesses/residents. I think it is a TERRIBLE idea to bring kids to it, but I'd leave that decision to the parents. And when the inevitable bad stuff happens down the line. I'll be glad to throw out the first "told ya so."
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:29 pm to AggieHank86
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quote:
People should be encouraged to celebrate pedophilia because it's ok if 99% don't engage in the behavior?
What an odd take.
No, the analogy would be that 99% of TG folks are probably not pedophiles.
What an odd take.
So you think we should allow 100% of people with a mental illness around children because only 1% of them also have pedophilia as a mental illness?
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:30 pm to RaginCajunz
Just look at him. He may as well get "I am a pedophile" tattooed across his face
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:31 pm to L.A.
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Just look at him. He may as well get "I am a pedophile" tattooed across his face
Dude was a children's court judge to boot...
You know his husband knew about this or was in on it as well...
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:36 pm to Steadyhands
I have no problem acknowledging that transgenderism is a behavioral oddity and even (in most cases) closely-related to a form of mental/emotional disorder recognized in the DSM. LOTS of things fall into that category, and most of them are harmless to anyone other than the individual in question.
Whether we are talking about TG or OCD, I see no reason for a government to prohibit a person with a DSM "disorder" from being in the presence of children, UNLESS there exists some evidence that such person is likely to harm the children.
Neither TG nor OCD is dangerous to the children. I am not aware of any greater link between TG and pedophilia than exists between OCD and pedophilia.
Should we preclude all people with OCD from having access to children?
Whether we are talking about TG or OCD, I see no reason for a government to prohibit a person with a DSM "disorder" from being in the presence of children, UNLESS there exists some evidence that such person is likely to harm the children.
Neither TG nor OCD is dangerous to the children. I am not aware of any greater link between TG and pedophilia than exists between OCD and pedophilia.
Should we preclude all people with OCD from having access to children?
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 3/18/21 at 1:48 pm to Mellow Drama
BWwwwaaaahahahahahahhahaahha...
I see MSN sure didn't mention Drag queen story hour...
there was another website I won't mention where the majority of it's members and Mods defended this.. Said it was good for kids to learn this stuff or sum such crap... and I took hell for condemning it.
I see MSN sure didn't mention Drag queen story hour...
there was another website I won't mention where the majority of it's members and Mods defended this.. Said it was good for kids to learn this stuff or sum such crap... and I took hell for condemning it.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 2:17 pm to AggieHank86
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Whether we are talking about TG or OCD, I see no reason for a government to prohibit a person with a DSM "disorder" from being in the presence of children, UNLESS there exists some evidence that such person is likely to harm the children.
Being in the presence of children is not the same thing as putting them on display and making an event of it. With freedom, your right to expose your children to something in public should stop at my right to not want to have my children exposed to something.
If you're okay with this, then you have to be okay if a handful of people want to have strippers reading to children at a public library. There is nothing sexual about it, they will remain clothed, and the children will learn that strippers are real people too. Let's do nude readings after that. We're born naked, nothing more natural than that.
Posted on 3/18/21 at 2:24 pm to Steadyhands
quote:If you have a problem with it, don't bring your kids.
If you're okay with this, then you have to be okay if a handful of people want to have strippers reading to children at a public library. There is nothing sexual about it, they will remain clothed,
I say the parent is the gatekeeper. You want the State to serve that role.
Sorry, but that is the definition of a statist. Just embrace it.
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