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re: Will people here admit that the vaccines are working?

Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:45 pm to
Most people that I know really don't like this about Trump. I think you are believing stereotypes and not reality.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:46 pm to
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Cannot refute it so u post something stupid. No surprise.

You're the guy who is reacting to data that doesn't sway the way you want it to by saying "supposedly"

I refuted your silly post very clearly. You were being hypocritical, textbook example of it. Not sure why you'd try to crawfish away from that, own it. You did it, it happened. Man up and own your statements, don't run from them.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88942 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:46 pm to


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You definitely called them out I’m sure of it.
Pics or it didn’t happen!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:47 pm to
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Most people that I know really don't like this about Trump. I think you are believing stereotypes and not reality.

Is this your first time on this board?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:48 pm to
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Pics or it didn’t happen!

Did you just quote yourself and tell yourself to post pics of something you said or it didn't happen?
Posted by kmdawg17
'Murica
Member since Sep 2015
1707 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:49 pm to
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You're the guy who is reacting to data that doesn't sway the way you want it to by saying "supposedly"

I refuted your silly post very clearly. You were being hypocritical, textbook example of it. Not sure why you'd try to crawfish away from that, own it. You did it, it happened. Man up and own your statements, don't run from them.


This is exactly what I’m talking about. You’re literally too stupid to have legitimate discussion with.

You have ZERO idea what ur talking about, but you just want to push buttons with your idiocy.

Nothing I originally stated is incorrect. You can’t refute it so you post some stupid laughing emoji and think you’re witty
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39754 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:49 pm to
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I know you're not going to pretend that is not what's happening here.


Nope. There are a few of those, but most Trump supporters are against being forced to do anything. I think that argument is being conflated with being against the vaccine all together. Just another attempt by the left to label and divide.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88942 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:50 pm to
No, ya nerd.

You’re saying my statement that you haven’t called out people for saying, “don’t trust or take Trump’s glorious vaccine” is false.

Let’s see it!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Nothing I originally stated is incorrect.
"supposedly"

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You can’t refute it so you post some stupid laughing emoji and think you’re witty
It's funny that you think I'm refuting anything, reading comprehension is badly missing on your end here.

You accused everyone else of believing what they want to believe, but then downplaying data by saying the vaccine "supposedly" does something. No, it does something. It does something you don't want to believe it does, so you said it "supposedly" does because you clearly don't think it does, despite what all the data says. So yea, take your own advice, stop being so hypocritical. Reread that post you made, there is zero chance you can logically "refute" anything I just said. Zip, none.
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2699 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:52 pm to
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If some body actually did a study on it, you Democrats would claim it's a threat to democracy What are you talking about? There is a massive amount of data being continuously studied on the matter


Could you name or link a few independent sources?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:53 pm to
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No, ya nerd.

You’re saying my statement that you haven’t called out people for saying, “don’t trust or take Trump’s glorious vaccine” is false.

Let’s see it!
So to confirm, you're asking to see statements I did not make, right?


Also, you made the statement, it's on you to show your work. It's not on me to prove I never made a post I never made. But I can do that if you want.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88942 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:55 pm to
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I think that argument is being conflated with being against the vaccine all together. Just another attempt by the left to label and divide.
100%

I’d guess the VAST majority of us here think the vaccine works in what it’s attempting to do. Those of us who don’t want to take it see it as pointless for ourselves. I’d guess the majority of those people(me included) have family members who have taken it and we’re happy they have if that’s what the want/need.

Claiming we don’t think the vaccine works is the definition of a straw man. What’s funny is the same people who are making this straw man argument are the same people who don’t care that their elected officials were screaming for us not to trust or take Trump’s vaccine.

While we just sat here, made our own decisions, and watched the left flip flop on the subject.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88942 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:58 pm to
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So to confirm, you're asking to see statements I did not make, right?


Also, you made the statement, it's on you to show your work. It's not on me to prove I never made a post I never made. But I can do that if you want.
The heck is going on here?

I said you didn’t call out the left for saying don’t trust or take Trump’s vaccine, but then flipping and urging us all to take it.

You said I was wrong about that. Meaning, you DID call them out.

So if you DID call them out, there would be posts you could show.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135697 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:58 pm to
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The “vaccine” doesn’t do anything except supposedly lessen symptoms should you get Covid.

It doesn’t prevent anyone from catching or spreading it to others, so how would you quantify it “working” or not?

My wife (no pics) is an epidemiology lead for a company
She's obviously not a doc. I hope to hell her position is in sales or admin, and not science.

Of course the vaccine prevents one from catching it or spreading it. That is how vaccines work. There is nothing different with CV19 in that regard.

I swear folks have just lost their damn minds over this stuff.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:58 pm to
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I’d guess the VAST majority of us here think the vaccine works in what it’s attempting to do.
Check the question in the OP.

Now read the posts on page 1 or hell from that 1 dude on this page. Are you saying the "vast majority" of of people replying in this thread are saying the vaccine is working? Because the posts clearly are stating otherwise.

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Claiming we don’t think the vaccine works is the definition of a straw man
So...you haven't read any of the replies in this thread then?

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While we just sat here, made our own decisions
You're talking about "conflating" but what is really happening is just deflection. Again, read the thread. There are a shite ton of posters who won't admit the answer to the thread title question is YES, but you're completely changing the subject to being forced to get the vaccine, and that has literally nothing to do with this topic.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108184 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 12:59 pm to
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That's the PGA


Just to be clear, you did make the claim that “no one” is forcing you.

A very inaccurate claim.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 1:01 pm to
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Of course the vaccine prevents one from catching it or spreading it. That is how vaccines work. There is nothing different with CV19 in that regard.

I swear folks have just lost their damn minds over this stuff.
Exactly. Best part is that Same dude then went on to say this:

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You choose to believe what you want to believe or whatever supports your already formed opinion, so there’s no real need in even having this discussion anymore
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Just to be clear, you did make the claim that “no one” is forcing you.

A very inaccurate claim.
In fairness, the entire PGA/Jon Rahm example in this thread makes no sense.
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted by kmdawg17
'Murica
Member since Sep 2015
1707 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 1:03 pm to
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It's funny that you think I'm refuting anything, reading comprehension is badly missing on your end here.


I said you can’t refute it so you post a laughing emoji. Reading comprehension is definitely missing, but it’s on your end.

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You accused everyone else of believing what they want to believe, but then downplaying data by saying the vaccine "supposedly" does something. No, it does something. It does something you don't want to believe it does, so you said it "supposedly" does because you clearly don't think it does, despite what all the data says. So yea, take your own advice, stop being so hypocritical. Reread that post you made, there is zero chance you can logically "refute" anything I just said. Zip, none.


What data? How do you quantify it “lessening” one’s symptoms when there were already people who were asymptomatic? Also, people are still getting covid who were “vaccinated” and they can still spread it to others. There are also many, many people who have gotten the “vaccine” and died from being sick.

It doesn’t surprise me that the country is heading in the direction it is when people like you will sit here and actually argue something you have zero clue about.

Now go away…
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88942 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 1:04 pm to
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you're completely changing the subject to being forced to get the vaccine, and that has literally nothing to do with this topic
I believe the topic was posted because the OP is attributing us not wanting to take the vaccine with us thinking it doesn’t work as stated/intended.

I don’t think a significant amount of people believe that it simply doesn’t work as stated/intended.

I also haven’t read any of the thread. I’m also crazy enough to tally how many people here think it doesn’t work so please don’t make me do that
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