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re: Why would the president fight so hard for contraception mandate?

Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:30 am to
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So much truth to this. So much.
but let's change it to "because you are a different type of human being, this only applies to you."

So your view of "so much truth" sounds so great to women. Basically, you're acting like the dick I mentioned earlier. It's fair to me, so frick you, silly women! I have Truth on my side!

I guarantee that nothing like this would ever single out white males.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125786 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:31 am to
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The war is on ObamaCare, any way the right can chip away at it.

And?

Sucks when your flagship piece of legislation can't meet a challenge in court.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125786 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:33 am to
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I guarantee that nothing like this would ever single out white males.


You've swallowed the wrong pill.

No one is "singling" anyone out. HL is covering BC. They did before and they will continue to. They just chose to limit the forms to those that were agreeable to them as they are, you know, paying for it.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10690 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:35 am to
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I guarantee that nothing like this would ever single out white males

Does obamacare mandate employers pay for condoms?

Edit: Sorry I included all males when I should have restricted the question to white males only to keep with your theme.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 9:40 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126706 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:35 am to
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The war is on ObamaCare, any way the right can chip away at it.


Better, more honest way of phrasing it. Because I am definitely against ObamaCare.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126706 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:36 am to
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I think you mean to things that people believe to be "abortifacients."


Nope, I know what they are. And contraceptives as well.

Appreciate your attempt to help though.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58040 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:36 am to
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Just because someone wants something, that doesn't constitute a "right".

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Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12302 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:37 am to
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and further piss off women about rape or such

It only pisses off the dumb ones. But alas, we've already proven that the politically clueless far outnumber the ones who actually pay attention.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126706 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:40 am to
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but let's change it to "because you are a different type of human being, this only applies to you."


You can (poorly) attempt to re-frame the argument all you want. Will not work. Contraceptives are readily available to women who choose to use them. They are also available in most of their health care plans.

Not a war on contraceptives or women. If you want them, pay for them or find them in a healthcare plan under ObamaCare.

Too easy.

But keep with your rantings and ravings. They are (mildly) entertaining.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:54 am to
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You can (poorly) attempt to re-frame the argument all you want. Will not work.
won't work with you, but your argument is a great way for R's to be a minority party. You'd probably cut your dick off before you voted Democrat.

I again say that the biggest thing going for D's is that they aren't R's.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:03 am to
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I again say that the biggest thing going for D's is that they aren't R's.

Yea, but they're still hog tied to Obama. Lets see how this plays out for them in November.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by i drink the kool aid
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
169 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:07 am to
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Why would the president fight so hard for contraception mandate?


This is assuming the president or any Democrats in Congress read the Health Care Law that they passed. All they cared about was passing the law, they didn't care what was in it. Now that it is passed, they will defend every bit of it so they don't look like they did not do their due diligence.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126706 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:12 am to
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won't work with you, but your argument is a great way for R's to be a minority party.


You honestly argue on the level of a twelve year old. Just because I say I won't pay for something does not mean you cannot go buy it for yourself. It is that easy.

But I will agree, R messaging is absolutely horrible. The D smear/half truth is exceptionally well done and the R can muster no response to it. Congrats!
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4589 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:28 pm to
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won't work with you, but your argument is a great way for R's to be a minority party.


Is mind boggling that this is the reply to someone who simply says he doesn't care one bit if you want to use contraceptives, and the he just doesn't want to buy them for you.

Are there really that many of you people out there? I've been under the impression that people like you make up about 5% of the population and somehow manage to make yourselves loud enough to seem like 40%. Then it becomes a game to swindle another 10% to join your cause.


Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4589 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:29 pm to
I was simply pointing out yet another lobbyist is the Obama administration.....and that there is obvious cronyism at play here.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126706 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:32 pm to
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I was simply pointing out yet another lobbyist is the Obama administration.....and that there is obvious cronyism at play here.


Not a smidgeon.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4505 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:33 pm to
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The follow-up by the Supreme Court IS about contraceptives. Ginsberg was right.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:41 pm to
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Because it deflects the attention from tragedies and coverups such as Benghazi.


This and it put the Dems on the offensive framing a conservative war against women narrative leading up to the midterms.
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