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re: Why Tribalism Took Over Our Politics
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You mean the claims an officer had his head bludgeoned? Claims which persisted despite fact for weeks, until that man was laid in state in the rotunda to forward the lie? or the claims that an unarmed US veteran was shot in "self-defense" as she scaled through an open portal? or the claims FBI did not HEAVILY infiltrate the J6 crowd? or claims Pelosi did not force the Nat'l Guard to stand down? or claims Trump called for riots? or claims that there was not a loophole in the EC protocol which could have theoretically allowed the VP to simply not open selected envelopes?
Did you happen to miss January 6?
Those kind of unintelligent associations?
This post was edited on 8/27/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:25 pm to KiwiHead
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and assure Democrat rule for the next 16-20 years
I’m afraid it’s going to be those with similar thought patterns as yourself who want so badly to poke their finger in Trump’s chest that they’re going to abstain from voting and let the Dems carry the day.
This post was edited on 8/27/23 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:28 pm to davyjones
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but only insomuch as you simply haven’t fully realized or acknowledged the existence of your Trump hatred.
He's a politician. I don't love or hate any of them.
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it’s just not possible to produce that much negativity and acrimony at such a persistent pace and it not be fueled by much more than mere dislike or disapproval.
If this board woke up and stopped being a Trump echo chamber, you'd see my posts about Trump decline by like 95%. Since this is a Trump echo chamber, almost every topic is about Trump, so the responses will also be about Trump.
My personal preferences would be for the Trump topic to be banned completely from here, but, obviously, that's not going to happen. Me participating in the forum's primary (almost exclusive) discussion point doesn't show any sort of emotional response to that discussion point.
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And then you go on to declare that he’s so horrid that only the uneducated and lowest classes in our society could be so stupid and idiotic to not see what the enlightened classes above see with ease.
This is a bit of a strawman.
The ideals Trumpism projects aren't the people who support Trump. Now the cult? Getting closer to cooking with gas, there. Just look at JJ.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:29 pm to davyjones
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I’m afraid it’s going to be those with similar thought patterns as yourself who want so badly to poke their finger in Trump’s chest that they’re going to abstain from voting and let the Dems carry the day.
Make it his fault to personalize his out-group status
Life gets a lot easier and more rational once you accept Trump cannot win the Electoral College. It's a clarity that returns people to reality.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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You mean the claims an officer had his head bludgeoned? Claims which persisted despite fact for weeks, until that man was laid in state in the rotunda to forward the lie? or the claims that an unarmed US veteran was shot in "self-defense" as she scaled through an open portal? or the claims FBI did not HEAVILY infiltrate the J6 crowd? or claims Pelosi did not force the Nat'l Guard to stand down? or claims Trump called for riots? or claims that there was not a loophole in the EC protocol which could have theoretically allowed the VP to simply not open selected envelopes?
No I'm talking about the tens of thousands of redneck illuminati who caused a riot.
But if you want to make a thread about those unrelated diversion questions, feel free. They don't belong in this discussion tree, though. Those questions are non sequiturs to my comment (in the form of a question).
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:33 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:Why the frick do you think Trump won in 2016?
Trump was a result, not a cause.
Never ever ever his fault
Because of Obama’s divisiveness. No Obama, no Trump most likely.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:34 pm to bhtigerfan
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Why the frick do you think Trump won in 2016?
Primarily because his opponent was one of the most detested and hated politicians of our lifetime, but he also provided an energy and a sense of something new, but that faded pretty quickly. Then came his mental decline
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he also provided an energy and a sense of something new, but that faded pretty quickly. Then came his mental decline
Yeah he's clearly not the same as he was in 15/16
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:He exposed the swamp for what it is. That exposure set up the FBI and DOJ for a post-Watergate-style house-cleaning. It is no longer a matter of "if." It is a matter of when. Meanwhile, his predecessor established the most dangerous, unstable issue to face the country was Kim Jong Un and North Korea. Trump dealt with that quite effectively. He kept Russia quiescent. Forced monetary contributions to NATO. Foretold the Russian energy threat to Europe. Established the capacity for NA energy independence. Pushed through more reasonable tax policy. Etc.
He passed some GOPE policies and failed at pretty much anything else
quote:You're being ridiculous.
Couldn't even get the ACA repealed.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The ones with FBI credentials in their wallets.
No I'm talking about the tens of thousands of redneck illuminati who caused a riot.
quote:Not necessary.
But if you want to make a thread about those unrelated diversion questions, feel free.
I'm perfectly content to do it right here.
I'm content to call out your emotional targeting of J6'ers as unintelligent relative to the J6 related instances I cited.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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He exposed the swamp for what it is.
By getting cucked by it and hiring a bunch of "Deep State" types to his administration?
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That exposure set up the FBI and DOJ for a post-Watergate-style house-cleaning
They're ineffectiveness and boldness is what did this. What exactly did Trump do in this process?
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Meanwhile, his predecessor established the most dangerous, unstable issue to face the country was Kim Jong Un and North Korea.
What the hell?
North Korea?
I could make a thread with your underlying premise but no answer and I doubt North Korea gets mentioned by a person who didn't see this exchange for 4 pages, if ever. And this board is Trump country
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Pushed through more reasonable tax policy
I already listed GOPE policies.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:45 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Here you go, all you lizard brain fools. Your brain is hard wired for hostility and conflict, and most of you are too prone to giving into your emotion to push beyond that initial response to get to reasoned debate and decency.
Surely you can see the contradiction in your own words.
Right?
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:46 pm to CollegeFBRules
Tribalism is an American political standard.
It was the primary cause of the civil war.
Dumbass senators went out to see the first battle of bull run as a spectator sport. Fun and games turn to chaos quickly as confederate artillery landed a round on their party. 619,000 dead soldiers later it was over. All because of self righteousness.
Today’s politicians are trying to drive the country over the same damn cliff.
It was the primary cause of the civil war.
Dumbass senators went out to see the first battle of bull run as a spectator sport. Fun and games turn to chaos quickly as confederate artillery landed a round on their party. 619,000 dead soldiers later it was over. All because of self righteousness.
Today’s politicians are trying to drive the country over the same damn cliff.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:53 pm to NC_Tigah
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The ones with FBI credentials in their wallets.
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emotional targeting of J6'e
Emotional?
Lot of FBI agents in those photos.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Emotional terminology.
By getting cucked
quote:He drew them in to the open, drew their fire, and exposed them just as surely as if he'd ripped the hoods off of Klansman.
They're ineffectiveness and boldness is what did this. What exactly did Trump do in this process?
Posted on 8/27/23 at 5:00 pm to NC_Tigah
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Emotional terminology.
Jokes don't require emotions, bubba.
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He drew them in
Oh my god.
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as if he'd ripped the hoods off of Klansman.
Even assuming this fantasy was true, this all happened AFTER he lost the 2020 election.
The Durham report was released 2.5 years after Trump lost the 2020 election. Next you're going to frame it as Trump being a Jeuss-like martyr to expose them.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 5:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:What is a joke designed to engender?
Jokes don't require emotions, bubba.
Let's try to keep the discussion factual, shall we?
Posted on 8/27/23 at 5:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
I can’t help but have lingering reservations as to the effectiveness of an attorney who possesses such a overwhelming characteristic of dismissing and ignoring the technically equal possibility that his position may be wrong as much as it may be right. And that without question is the present reality. You’ve gotten so far ahead of yourself that it’s produced an unbecoming (and possibly unprofessional in a courtroom setting) tone of arrogance and condescension. If you refuse so intently to acknowledge that you may well have problems with a particular presentation, then how will you ever plan accordingly for contingencies in the event of case terminating adversity?
I guess for me it raises red flags. Maybe you just are so good that traditional concepts don’t apply. It’s not impossible. Perhaps we meet in the courtroom beyond the bar some day and clear up these uncertainties.
I guess for me it raises red flags. Maybe you just are so good that traditional concepts don’t apply. It’s not impossible. Perhaps we meet in the courtroom beyond the bar some day and clear up these uncertainties.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 5:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Comey-Mueller-Clinton and RussiaRussiaRussia would like a word.
Even assuming this fantasy was true, this all happened AFTER he lost the 2020 election.
Posted on 8/27/23 at 5:23 pm to NC_Tigah
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What is a joke designed to engender?
A laugh based on the rational association of my words to associated references (experiences, memories, words, etc.)
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