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re: Why start deporting when you're still letting them in?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:40 pm to ItzMe1972
Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:40 pm to ItzMe1972
quote:Putting off roundup to see if congress can work something out. Art of the Deal. He is upping the game. Figure it out.
The first rule when you're in a hole is to stop digging!
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 2:42 pm to ItzMe1972
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Why start deporting when you're still letting them in?
You've obviously have never been on a sinking boat.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:10 pm to ItzMe1972
I think it could act as a deterrent.
All it took was Trump being elected and the flow stopped.
Then when the illegals figured out that our borders were open they started streaming through.
All it took was Trump being elected and the flow stopped.
Then when the illegals figured out that our borders were open they started streaming through.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:41 pm to ItzMe1972
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Why start deporting when you're still letting them in?
Because deporting large numbers is a hell of a statement!
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:55 pm to Pandy Fackler
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We're balls deep into the trump presidency and less than 150 miles of new or replacment wall has "gone up".
That's fricking nothing.
Your concern is noted.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:04 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Democrats want the votes. Republicans want the cheap labor.
I'm sure thats true at a rudimentary level or in a stereotyping kind of mind set, but thats not a very woke world view.
There are many republicans who don't hire criminal aliens and there are many democrats who are not the focus of a vote...sooo...
Don't be so narrow minded and exclusionary.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:20 pm to Dale51
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Democrats want the votes. Republicans want the cheap labor.
I'm sure thats true at a rudimentary level or in a stereotyping kind of mind set, but thats not a very woke world view.
There are many republicans who don't hire criminal aliens and there are many democrats who are not the focus of a vote...sooo...
Don't be so narrow minded and exclusionary.
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Don't be so narrow minded and exclusionary.
For decades that border stayed wide open so California agriculture could get the field workers.
The border continued to widen so the west could get the cattle hands and slaughter house workers.
The border then practically ceased to exist so the likes of houston and dallas could get the leaf blowers.
Now that american skilled labor in this country has dried up, the border is going to stay wide open so we can have plumbers, electricians, brick masons and whatever else kinda shite we can't get americans to do. The machine that drives all this shite is big corporate money. Big corporate money pulls for the big red elephant, always.
Republicans want the labor.
I'm not "narrow minded". You're just naive.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:25 pm to Dale51
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We're balls deep into the trump presidency and less than 150 miles of new or replacment wall has "gone up".
That's fricking nothing.
Your concern is noted.
I'm not "concerned" because i was never dumb enough to believe it would happen to begin with.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:29 pm to Pandy Fackler
Not once have I ever seen an Illegal Immigrant plumber or electrician. Btw, hanging dry wall or laying bricks isn’t a “skill” a 10 year old can learn to do those things in 30 minutes. Neither is cutting a yard or blowing leaves 
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:31 pm to Pandy Fackler
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I'm not "narrow minded". You're just naive.
I see what you're trying to say, but it's not at all accurate....at least as a response to my comment.
I was simply pointing out that you were being very narrow viewed claiming that "Democrats want votes and Republicans want cheap labor."
Tell me...you, personally, are you motivated by the votes or the cheap labor?
Serious question.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:35 pm to Pandy Fackler
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I'm not "concerned" because i was never dumb enough to believe it would happen to begin with.
Thats nice.
How about any of the other issues Trump ran on?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:36 pm to Dale51
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narrow viewed
Now this is next level calming of the rhetoric. Good on you.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:38 pm to davyjones
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Now this is next level calming of the rhetoric. Good on you.
Your opinion is widely panoramic.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:42 pm to Ray Corona
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Not once have I ever seen an Illegal Immigrant plumber or electrician. Btw, hanging dry wall or laying bricks isn’t a “skill” a 10 year old can learn to do those things in 30 minutes. Neither is cutting a yard or blow drying leaves
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Not once have I ever seen an Illegal Immigrant plumber or electrician
Head over to south Louisiana and start moving west. You'll see it and you'll see a fricking lot of it. It's the illegals who are working for the plumbing and electrical contractors as well as the construction companies. They're under your house laying pipe. In your walls running lines. Laying your floors. Shingling your roofs. You name it, they're doing it.
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Btw, hanging dry wall or laying bricks isn’t a “skill” a 10 year old can learn to do those things in 30 minutes.
Ok, if you say so but know this. The reason you have all these fricking Mexicans doing it is because you can't get any fricking americans to do it.
These companies want and need the labor from mexico because we can't provide it ourselves. These contractors and companies at the local, regional and national level vote and donate to campaigns. Who do you think they're giving their money to?
The Republicans are pro business and cheap accessible labor drives these businesses. This shite isn't complicated.
Keep chuckling i guess.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:46 pm to Dale51
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I'm not "concerned" because i was never dumb enough to believe it would happen to begin with.
Thats nice.
How about any of the other issues Trump ran on?
The "other issues" aren't relevant to this thread. Immigration is.
You want to talk about the other issues he ran on? Start a new topic.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:51 pm to Pandy Fackler
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You want to talk about the other issues he ran on? Start a new topic.
You're confused. "Talking about other issues" is not at all what I was pointing out.
I was asking..in a round about way..if you were generally against Trump, or if your concern was on this one issue.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:07 pm to Dale51
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Tell me...you, personally, are you motivated by the votes or the cheap labor?
Serious question.
I'm motivated by neither. I'm not a business owner or someone who can directly benifit from cheap labor. Nor do I have a greater social agenda that can be acheived by importing future voters.
I wanted the border closed for pretty much all the reasons we all want the border closed but are afraid to actually say out loud and that's this. The degredation and dilution of a culture based on Western European heritage.
We all babble about taxes and the social burden of all this immigration shite. We carry on about jobs and whatever else but when you get down to the balls of it, we all know that as each year passes whites in this country become fewer and fewer. And with fewer white people, the quality of life for everyone suffers and this country weakens.
Donald Trump tapped into this truth and exploited this concern among people. He said the right things and got elected. Made a bunch of populist noise and has done jackshit about immigration and will continue to do jackshit.
Nothing will be done about it because politicians can't see past the next election cycle. Immigration gets everybody elected and re-elected, including the president. Why would he or any other politician want to solve this problem?
None of it dissapoints me because i have no expectations. I believe i understand what motivates both parties when it comes to immigration.
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I was simply pointing out that you were being very narrow viewed claiming that "Democrats want votes and Republicans want cheap labor."
In the macro sense. That's exactly what they want.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:11 pm to Dale51
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You're confused. "Talking about other issues" is not at all what I was pointing out.
I was asking..in a round about way..if you were generally against Trump, or if your concern was on this one issue.
No I'm not against Trump. My concern is on this issue.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 8:13 pm
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