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re: Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:48 am to madhatterman
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:48 am to madhatterman
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Perfect example of just how meaningless the President's words really are. ANd if you do technical analysis of the stock market and the jobs market you'll come to the same conclusion. 4 of the 5 biggest contributors to the Federal Government happen to have Democratic governors. 3 of the 5 biggest drains on the Federal government have Republican governors. Look it up and you'll find the President is not be factual or honest - again
Just to be clear, people not states contribute to the federal govt via taxes. Is it ok in your opinion if we now refer to the numerous voters in your party (like 70% of the African Americans) as “drains on the federal govt”?
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:51 am to 93and99
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I was calling out his stupidity.
Does your link specify the sources of funding for the welfare programs?
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:52 am to 93and99
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I was calling out his stupidity.
calling out stupidity with more stupidity is smartity
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:54 am to Jorts R Us
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Does your link specify the sources of funding for the welfare programs?
It says “states”. Talks about how much of the state budget is spent on it..so yes.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:54 am to madhatterman
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4 of the 5 biggest contributors to the Federal Government happen to have Democratic governors. 3 of the 5 biggest drains on the Federal government have Republican governors.
Name the states and your source. You can find sources all over the net that tell just about any story you look for.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:55 am to Seldom Seen
We bailed out multibillion dollar corporations for mismanaging their own businesses. This argument seems a little silly in comparison... But that's conservatives these days.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:56 am to madhatterman
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Do your research. New York provides more money to the Federal government than any other state.
Good, NY wont need a bailout then
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:59 am to SickGainzLP
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We bailed out multibillion dollar corporations for mismanaging their own businesses. This argument seems a little silly in comparison... But that's conservatives these days.
Conservatives were not in favor of bailouts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:59 am to Dawgfanman
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It says “states”. Talks about how much of the state budget is spent on it..so yes.
So, for NYS, if I want to see the breakdown of FA and SNA, the former funded by the federal government while the latter is funded by the state and the counties, I can see that on his link?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 11:59 am to 93and99
First of all...
Did you do any research? You weren't using absolute numbers instead of per-capita numbers, right? That would be embarassing. The only possible caveat is that these graphs are a few years out of date, but there's no way things have flipped so that only blue states are on top and only red states are on the bottom. That's fantasy.
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You need to do some research.
They also use more welfare than nearly every state.
Did you do any research? You weren't using absolute numbers instead of per-capita numbers, right? That would be embarassing. The only possible caveat is that these graphs are a few years out of date, but there's no way things have flipped so that only blue states are on top and only red states are on the bottom. That's fantasy.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:00 pm to David_DJS
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Name the states and your source. You can find sources all over the net that tell just about any story you look for.
Mississippi
Louisiana
New Mexico
Arizona
Kentucky
Montana
Tennessee
Wyoming
Alaska
Missouri
this was the Top 10 from like 5 years ago, though, so the information might be dated. The source is the US Census Bureau Tax Foundation for States' Federal Aid as a Percentage of General Revenue for the Fiscal Year of 2016
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:01 pm to Jorts R Us
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So, for NYS, if I want to see the breakdown of FA and SNA, the former funded by the federal government while the latter is funded by the state and the counties, I can see that on his link?
You have the link, right? Why ask questions you know the answer to? You feeling like a winner here?
The federal govt should take over NY, clearly they can’t run themselves. Just look at all the people who died due to Cuomo
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:03 pm to madhatterman
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Do your research. New York provides more money to the Federal government than any other state.
Does that include all their state taxes that they had been deducting from their federal taxes? Thank God, TRUMP put a stop to that practice.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:04 pm to Dawgfanman
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You have the link, right? Why ask questions you know the answer to? You feeling like a winner here?
Well, whether you realize it or not, the answers to those questions are relevant in this context. Obviously.
Well, not so obviously for some.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:05 pm to Jorts R Us
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Well, whether you realize or not, the answers to those questions are relevant in this context. Obviously. Well, not so obviously for some
So why not answer them? Why ask others the answer? Why not make a statement and not some leading question?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:05 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states?
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I agree. Why do we bail out poorly run corporations?
I agree. Why do we bail out poorly run countries?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:06 pm to madhatterman
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Do your research. New York provides more money to the Federal government than any other state.
States don't pay anything to the federal government and a state running out of money is solely based on the policies of that state.
Federal tax laws are the same for everyone
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:06 pm to Microtiger
It's all a rather silly exercise either way. Louisiana has a democratic governor. Is it a "red" state just because of how it has recently voted in presidential elections? Are its "red" voters or "blue" voters the primary beneficiaries of the federal largesse?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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It's all a rather silly exercise either way. Louisiana has a democratic governor. Is it a "red" state just because of how it has recently voted in presidential elections? Are its "red" voters or "blue" voters the primary beneficiaries of the federal largesse?
I agree, and I'd also add that there's no meaningful trend either way. What liberals say about blue states being bastions of giving back more than they receive is also a fallacy. Some states suck, some states have their shite together, and it doesn't really matter if they're red or blue or what party their governor is in at the moment.
I don't even disagree with Trump's statement until he says the unnecessary BS line "in all cases Democrat run and managed". In ALL CASES? Really, Trump? Is Mississippi well run?
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:11 pm to KrushGroove
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Mississippi
Louisiana
New Mexico
Arizona
Kentucky
Montana
Tennessee
Wyoming
Alaska
Missouri
So 6 Rep governors and 4 Dems. I was expecting something more overwhelming given comments posted.
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