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Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:33 pm to dafif
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The congress gave broad powers to the president that are not subject to judicial review. What is reviewable, I believe, is if the actual procedure is followed.
Of the executive and commander in chief declares that Venezuela sent these illegals here as terrorists that is all that is required to conform to the statute and it is not subject to review.
Congress can change the law and limit the authority to prevent abuse in the future but right now there is no review if the steps are correct
So you are saying there is no recourse if the admin makes a mistake and improperly or overbroadly applies the law?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:34 pm to dafif
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Nothing about this involves any question of citizenship- PERIOD
I'm testing the limits of your theory
If the admin makes a mistake and puts a citizen on a plane, what recourse does that citizen have if the decision is non-reviewable?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:35 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Has anyone claimed there was a citizen on board?
No, that's irrelevant to me testing the limits of your argument, though.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Has anyone claimed there was a citizen on board?
No. It's a pure straw man that he's clinging to.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:39 pm to moneyg
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No. It's a pure straw man that he's clinging to.

Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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So you are saying there is no recourse if the admin makes a mistake and improperly or overbroadly applies the law?
Does Korematsu ring a bell?
As for a citizen, I think the citizen would have a habeas corpus action which does not apply here.
The citizens action would be addressed as outside the statute but you know that already -
As I said above in the prior post a court can review the act for limited purpose of following the statute. If the executive branch says Venezuela sent the gang over and they are here illegally the court has no power to dispute that allegation .
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:36 am to Azkiger
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Yes, and you said it's not a constitutional issue, after saying it was yesterday.
Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but considering it's you this is 110% appropriate as you're King Ackchually on this sub forum.
It is well-known and well-documented that the self-proclaimed Chat GPT Genius talks out of both sides of his arse.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:09 am to Bard
Well some in the judiciary don't see it that way. The judiciary will try to hamstring the Trump administration every day, every way. How long will it take to adjudicate these cases?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
I get what you're saying but if we make every law and decision based on obscure outliers, we are making government inefficient by design. Which would be an impediment to an Enemy Aliens law that could cause seriously deadly consequences.
I'd rather we err towards common sense and stop with the nitpicking and navel gazing.
I'd rather we err towards common sense and stop with the nitpicking and navel gazing.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 9:31 am
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