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re: Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?

Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6945 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:02 pm to
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Russia wants to end the war.


Well, yea, but it’s more about how you want to end it that’s important.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19726 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:04 pm to
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AGGIES


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I just think you’re wrong, Possibly because you’ve been led to believe that it’s better to be isolated than have allies. Or maybe you think that the US being aligned with Russia is more beneficial to the US. I won’t speak for you on that. But, I just don’t trust them. And I’ll assume you think I’ve been brainwashed.


I am brainwashed after serving two deployments in the European theatre of operations (ie, the Med)…..dude you have no clue what you are talking about. All you are doing is regurgitating what the Legacy Media is saying.

1) Tell me 1 NATO country that has spent the correct amount of GDP since their acceptance on defense outside of Poland….just 1?
2) Tell us if we have upheld our agreement not to expand NATO towards Russia after the fall of the Berlin Wall?
3) What was the summary of the 2005 CIA Whitepaper on accepting Ukraine into NATO?
4) Lastly prove the CNN reporting on the Donbas from 2014 through 2022 where false?
5) Lastly from a military standpoint explain how Ukraine with a population 1/5 of Russia can hope to win when their average age of fighting troops is now 43 years old?

I am not the one brainwashed brah!
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19726 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Putin plans to turn Ukraine into a puppet state.


The 2014 CIA/ USAID would like to have a word with you!
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2841 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:06 pm to
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You were ready to pack your bags earlier based on your own incorrect assumptions.

And you presume yourself to be smart? Interesting.

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So a grunt.

I did grunt a little while ago when I dropped one off at the toilet. Did you find that water cold?

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Dear god, you really don't know what I mean. Maybe if you think really hard you can figure it out. What is the difference between nuclear weapons and guns? You can sound it out if you are having trouble little guy.

Absolutely do know what you mean. Just think you're full of shite. If you take nuke and gun out of the arguments, the arguments are the same. You deem yourself better and in the authoritarian position. It's ok, I knew early on you were that way.

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That seems like a function of your own mental retardation.

Whatever you need to say so you can make it thru the day.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
27767 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39154 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:08 pm to
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And you presume yourself to be smart? Interesting.



Lol.

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Absolutely do know what you mean.


Nah, you don't. It's okay.

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ou deem yourself better and in the authoritarian position.


This is not what the word 'authoritarian' means but okay.

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Whatever you need to say so you can make it thru the day.



It's okay, I'm talking above your paygrade. It happens.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
10681 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:10 pm to
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The 2014 CIA/ USAID would like to have a word with you!


They want to talk to you first, to explain that
Viktor Yanukovych was a Russian Puppet from 2010-2014.

Just ask Paul Manafort.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2841 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:12 pm to
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crazy4lsu

Did I hit a nerve? Vaginitis flaming up again? They have a cream for that. You're not the first cuck who sits quitely in the corner watching his wife/girlfriend be railed by a real man and then goes on the internet to talks smack. It's ok buddy, I'm not gonna judge you.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39154 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:14 pm to
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1) Tell me 1 NATO country that has spent the correct amount of GDP since their acceptance on defense outside of Poland….just 1?



This stipulation has only existed since the Wales Summit in 2014 and was more of a guideline. But according to World Bank data, the UK only had one year where they fell below that 2% threshold, in 2018, while Turkey and France have had a few years below 2%. Most of the others were below that threshold.

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2) Tell us if we have upheld our agreement not to expand NATO towards Russia after the fall of the Berlin Wall?



No such agreement was ever put to paper.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39154 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:16 pm to
Lol, it's okay my guy. You aren't the first person who I've driven into retardation. This stuff isn't at your level. Run along.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68877 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:17 pm to
Apropos of nothing, Zelensky was not an organically and democratically elected leader. He was chosen by that collective beacon of soverignety, the West.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45907 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:17 pm to
A, Putin is winning
B, Putin isn’t receiving aid from the US.

We have very little negotiating leverage with Russia, but either way, they’ve been pretty vocal from the beginning that they are ready for a ceasefire agreement. Zelensky on the other hand has been a loose cannon who truly brought the “hardball” on himself.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2841 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:18 pm to
That big black guy is in the bedroom railing your wife right now, ain't he. Are you just the cleanup guy or do you double as fluffer too?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
10681 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:19 pm to
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We have very little negotiating leverage with Russia, but either way, they’ve been pretty vocal from the beginning that they are ready for a ceasefire agreement. Zelensky on the other hand has been a loose cannon who truly brought the “hardball” on himself.


What terms is Russia offering?
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39154 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:22 pm to
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He was chosen by that collective beacon of soverignety, the West.


As opposed to the beacon of self-determination that Russia represents.

Russia definitely was interfering in Ukrainian politics before 2014. Why it is okay for Russia and not the West is a curious position.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39154 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:23 pm to
It's weird that you typed that out man. Log off for a bit. It's okay that I was talking above your ability to understand. Tomorrow is another day.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45907 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:24 pm to
You’d have to ask the state department, but they’ve yet to negotiate directly with Ukraine so nothings been outlined.

I’m not sure what your point is. What are we going to threaten Russia with? WW3? And why make any such threats when they are willing to come to the table? The rest is up to them and the Ukraine.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68877 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:24 pm to
I dont need the whataboutism. Was just trying to help you understand what I was laughing at.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39154 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:25 pm to
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I dont need the whataboutism. Was just trying to help you understand what I was laughing at.



None of that really counters my point about how the West has traditionally viewed self-determination. Good talk.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68877 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:26 pm to
Im not the guy you're bickering with. You can save the dipshit attitude for him.
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