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re: Why is it unpopular to say I’m tired of Trump’s stupid comments and he looks low energy?

Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23222 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:12 pm to
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I told you. I don't back down from criticizing individuals.


Then why hide it (ie veiled criticism)?

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23222 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:17 pm to
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quote:Are you talking about Rand Paul? MAGA hates him?

Do you remember 2016?


Do you remember when Trump endorsed him?

For the 2022 senate race.

quote:

"He fights against the Swamp in Washington, the Radical Left Liberals, and especially the destructive RINOS, of which there are far too many, in Congress," Trump said in his statement. "Rand will continue to stand up for our great AMERICA FIRST policies because he believes in stopping wasteful spending, defending our Second Amendment rights, and taking care of our Military and our Vets. I am proud to be working with Rand in our battle to Make America Great Again.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23222 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:19 pm to
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Conditionally, depends if he supports something they do. Hes been called many reprehensible names by the Trumpaphiles. Funny, many MAGA supporters pretended to like Ron Paul a decade ago. Now youre against many of his positions.


Please tell me more about how I think. As I just posted, dear leader said it was ok to support him.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23222 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:20 pm to
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What do you think your motivation is for your excessive number of posts?


It is his duty to provide objective analysis, from what I’ve gathered.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9785 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:21 pm to
An enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine.

They HATE Trump and I HATE them.

The establishment wants to destroy Trump.
Trump wants to destroy the establishment.

I know which side I’m on and it isn’t the establishment.
Posted by SPT
Member since Jun 2014
1109 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Hang on, the usual cast of characters will be in here shortly to claim you are in a "glorious melt



Here’s the first!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Please tell me more about how I think. As I just posted, dear leader said it was ok to support him.


He didnt support your trade policy. You know, like Chinamen.

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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said Sunday that he has warned the Trump administration against leveling more tariffs against China, arguing that they will cancel out any benefits companies received from the administration’s recent tax cuts.


Hes one of those WEFGLOBALISTRINOCUCKS yall talk alot about.

According to the MAGAphiles here, Rand was a grandstander and never put forth any bills.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:52 pm to
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and he looks low energy

Who looks high energy to you?

Just asking
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38053 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:06 pm to
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That's pussy talk.

In rational system, you criticize your own team when they come up short with the hope that they realize the issue and improve.

So, I can't support him and criticize what I feel are his weaknesses? Or are you saying that we don't?

Many "Trump supporters" here, including myself, have been vocally critical of his missteps and gaffes. Many, including myself, have openly professed that we will vote for either him or Desantis, whoever gets the nomination.

Desantis just might have been on top right now if his campaign management hadn't seemingly deliberately tanked his image. It's been so awkward and bizarre that really it only makes sense that it was intentional... Yet Trump trudges on, in spite of his own missed opportunities and his propensity toward stepping on his own dick when he should just stand still and shut up.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:08 pm to
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In rational system, you criticize your own team when they come up short with the hope that they realize the issue and improve.

This demand of unadulterated worship is a big reason those people are called cult members (b/c that's literally what cults do). This version of TDS is why Trump has gotten so shitty over the pat 3 years. He's off the rails these days.


At this point he's only a slight upgrade over Biden
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76527 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Instead of a push back against the establishment and a voice for change, Trump’s base is turning into a mirror image of the blind rabid sheep on the left and just another cog in the American political machine


A lot of it is the way 2020 went down. Its more revenge than policy. Never mind the fact Trump failed to go against those who were fighting him in his own Admin. Also many support just to vote against him in the general.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23222 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:38 pm to
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According to the MAGAphiles here, Rand was a grandstander and never put forth any bills.


According to you, MAGAphiles would never challenge Trump and see him as their cult leader. According to Trumps public address supporting Rand in 2022, he should be supported. So….

Why is it so unpopular to say you are tired of Trump? It’s not. He’s an arse, everyone is aware of this. What’s unpopular is assuming every person that supports him is brain dead, and then say ridiculous, conflicting, bullshite on a constant basis.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:36 pm to
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No. I haven't lost my fastball like Trump has. He is too scared to even debate these days.


This would be like Alabama agreeing to play Florida State next week to “prove” that they belong.

Saban, unlike yourself, isn’t a dumbass, and would never agree to such stupidity.

Neither would (or should) Trump.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:56 pm to
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globalism, the WEF, "The steal"


Huh?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:51 am to
Trump isn't perfect and has many flaws. Regardless, I think he is the candidate with the best chance of winning and will stand for the things I believe in.
The vile attempts to remove him by Dems & Rinos says it all.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8730 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:03 am to
Why did so many turn from an attitude of grass roots free thinking tear down the establishment frick the uniparty types to Trump loyalists who rabidly defend him without question and attack anyone who tries to even discuss his positions, short comings, or possible issues?

Maybe because the NeverTrumpers have constantly promoted/spread narratives that have turned out to be factually false.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139057 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:08 am to
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Trump’s base is turning into a mirror image of the blind rabid sheep
I hear you, and it may seem that way.

But there is another side to this. Never in the history of the United States has the DOJ unleashed itself in a way so as to criminalize political opposition. Never has the DOJ coordinated cases with criminal and civil state actions. Never in history has a state changed civil law to enable targeting of one man simply because of politics. Were the weight of those actions brought down on anyone but a billionaire, they would be crushing. The fact Trump can withstand them is a Godsend.

Nonetheless, if anyone but Trump wins, so does a politicized DOJ reigning down on any future targets. If they can get Trump, they can get anyone. So when you go after Trump or his supporters, just keep the lawfare angle in the back of your mind.

Is that really the result you want?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:11 am to
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According to you, MAGAphiles would never challenge Trump and see him as their cult leader.


So true. It's like watching watching animals at feeding time when they fear someone said something negative about Donny.
Posted by TigerBlazer
Member since Aug 2016
840 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:13 am to
Did you pay attention when Trump was president:

On July 27, 2018, he told Sean Hannity of Fox News: “We have $21 trillion in debt. When this [the 2017 tax cut] really kicks in, we’ll start paying off that debt like it’s water.”

Trump said he could pay down the national debt, then about $19 trillion, “over a period of eight years” by renegotiating trade deals and spurring economic growth.

Trump’s tax cuts, especially the sharp reduction in the corporate tax rate to 21% from 35%, took a big bite out of federal revenue. The CBO estimated in 2018 that the tax cut would increase deficits by about $1.9 trillion over 11 years.

In fiscal 2019, they netted about $71 billion, up about $36 billion from President Barack Obama’s last year in office. But although $36 billion is a lot of money, it’s less than 1/750th of the national debt. That $36 billion could have covered a bit more than three weeks of interest on the national debt — that is, had Trump not unilaterally decided to send a chunk of the tariff revenue to farmers affected by his trade wars. Businesses that struggled as a result of the tariffs also paid fewer taxes, offsetting some of the increased tariff revenue
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5445 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:45 am to


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This is very easy to answer. Perhaps the simplest question ever. You can support Trump or you can support Biden


Asinine, ignorant, and dangerous take.
Maybe this is too hard to grasp so I'll draw you a flow chart. Any support you give to a candidate not in the mainstream is simply support for the polls leader. It's time to look at the overwhelming math-based facts and realize being a Ron or RFK support just isn't a thing right now.

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