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re: Why is India not a StarTrek utopia if they have millions of the worlds most brilliant engi
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:45 am to Big4SALTbro
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:45 am to Big4SALTbro
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Our school problem then gets worse as we add in out of touch and do nothing parents.
In the USA, we throw money at problems and hope they go away. They never do.
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:47 am to goldennugget
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The H1B consultancy then creates a fake resume for this imported Indian, claiming 7 years of experience.
The H1B consultancy then trains these imported Indians not on coding skills, but they train them on how to fool an American interviewer that they actually have 7 years of experience.
Linkedin is full of spam for this shite.
It's all about passing interviews and questions.
How does one drop a table in SQL....
They are living off the reputation of Indians of 20 years ago.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:49 am to baybeefeetz
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They have a billion people.
quote:That’s over 4 times the population of the US.
According to current estimates, the population of India in 2024 is around 1.45 billion people. This makes India the most populous country in the world.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:54 am to boomtown143
I want to try to clear up something I see people getting wrong about Indians in technical fields.
No one who has the right to work in the USA is going to accept a less-than-market salary. If you want to hire an experienced software developer who lives in the US, it's going to be around $150,000 / year regardless of the guy's ethnicity. I know this from experience hiring developers at several different companies. At no point in the process do we stop and say, "Oh, but that guy's super-Indian. Let's offer him $90,000."
Offshore devs are a different ballgame, of course, but offshoring is very difficult. You're going to need a whole new type of person, too: managers who can deal with offshore devs.
The net effect is that I haven't ever actually wound up hiring US-resident people of Indian heritage to do software development work much. You don't really save any money doing it, and they're seldom the absolute best candidates.
No one who has the right to work in the USA is going to accept a less-than-market salary. If you want to hire an experienced software developer who lives in the US, it's going to be around $150,000 / year regardless of the guy's ethnicity. I know this from experience hiring developers at several different companies. At no point in the process do we stop and say, "Oh, but that guy's super-Indian. Let's offer him $90,000."
Offshore devs are a different ballgame, of course, but offshoring is very difficult. You're going to need a whole new type of person, too: managers who can deal with offshore devs.
The net effect is that I haven't ever actually wound up hiring US-resident people of Indian heritage to do software development work much. You don't really save any money doing it, and they're seldom the absolute best candidates.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:04 am to Porpus
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I want to try to clear up something I see people getting wrong about Indians in technical fields.
No one who has the right to work in the USA is going to accept a less-than-market salary. If you want to hire an experienced software developer who lives in the US, it's going to be around $150,000 / year regardless of the guy's ethnicity. I know this from experience hiring developers at several different companies. At no point in the process do we stop and say, "Oh, but that guy's super-Indian. Let's offer him $90,000."
Offshore devs are a different ballgame, of course, but offshoring is very difficult. You're going to need a whole new type of person, too: managers who can deal with offshore devs.
The net effect is that I haven't ever actually wound up hiring US-resident people of Indian heritage to do software development work much. You don't really save any money doing it, and they're seldom the absolute best candidates.
I had my job offshored in 2020 and 2022.
In 2024 I was laid off a 3rd time, although my job wasn't offshored - I was replaced by an Indian. I know because I had to train him or I wouldn't have gotten my severance. The H1B apologists here say I was laid off and replaced because I am dumb and lazy, and was bad at my job. Even though I single handedly carried the DS/ML department of a publicly traded $2 billion company for 7 months and won employee of the quarter for Q4 2023 - not just employee of the quarter for my department, but for the whole damn corporate office.
When I got laid off I was told it was due to "restructuring".
There is no other reason to have replaced me, a high achiever, for any other reason other than wage arbitrage. I made too much money and Boston Consulting Group told the C-Suite I was too expensive.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:06 am to boomtown143
I work with a lot of Indian engineers, some are ok, most are not. They are also very abrasive and have poor people skills.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:17 am to boomtown143
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Their brilliance is only activated on the magical soil of America.
Yes. You not only have to have talent, but you have to have the capital to apply to that talent to actually make it useful. A good idea is of no use if you don't have the money to bring it to fruition.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:24 am to boomtown143
Because a few are smart. Some are even nice. Most arent and could care less about you or America.
Another lie by Corporate America nd you GubMint
Another lie by Corporate America nd you GubMint
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:27 am to Tantal
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Yes. You not only have to have talent, but you have to have the capital to apply to that talent to actually make it useful. A good idea is of no use if you don't have the money to bring it to fruition.
So why dont they have the capital? Because of magic soil?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:28 am to boomtown143
The numbers below are for those APPROVED.
This is not TOTAL APPLICATIONS....which makes it worse!
This is not TOTAL APPLICATIONS....which makes it worse!
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:32 am to Strannix
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They are also very abrasive and have poor people skills.
I was a PM for a software company and so many of them that worked for us on the subcontinent outright sucked. But our c-suite didn’t care (since they were waiting for their PE payout)
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:03 am to boomtown143
We should import more Swedes and Swiss. Better food, more attractive women and western culture more aligned with our own. This is a no brainer.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:10 am to Strannix
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So why dont they have the capital?
Because India is relatively poor.
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Because of magic soil?
Do you not understand how a country's success, or lack thereof, is largely dependent upon its geography? That's why the U.S. went from colony to the world's superpower in 150 years. We applied British ingenuity and German technical acumen to the best geography on the planet. We've tried our best to screw it up, but we can't. Our geography is too conducive to being rich.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:33 am to LSUGrad2024
Nobel Prize, okay so what notable Americans have won the Nobel....obama....uh you sure you want to use that award as a measure of intelligence 
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:36 am to Tantal
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We applied British ingenuity and German technical acumen to the best geography on the planet
I noticed you didn't say "Indian ingenuity".
HMMMMMM
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:36 am to Irish Knuckles
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it's a completely luciferian culture. they literally worship luciferian demons that are named in their hindu religion.
Where in the world do you come up with such nonsense?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:41 am to boomtown143
I've gone down the proverbial "rabbit hole" of India's industrial processes, mainly with metal work manufacturing machine parts from the foundries to the actual machining.
I'm amazed at the filth of these places with trash and other crap all over the place. The workers are dressed mostly in loose fitting rags with many of them wearing sandals or even going barefoot. Very little in the way of safety standards when running huge machines that could maim or kill a person in one hit and the amount of filth built up around these same machines is pretty shocking.
I'm amazed at the filth of these places with trash and other crap all over the place. The workers are dressed mostly in loose fitting rags with many of them wearing sandals or even going barefoot. Very little in the way of safety standards when running huge machines that could maim or kill a person in one hit and the amount of filth built up around these same machines is pretty shocking.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:41 am to Big4SALTbro
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and we have bought and paid for politicians rather it be China or Israel.
Actually its worse, its our own money filtered through NGOs and the MIC and back to our politicians.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:26 am to boomtown143
quote:Well, this country wasn't initially settled by Indians, so I'm not sure why I would.
I noticed you didn't say "Indian ingenuity".
Generally speaking, Europeans have been more innovative while East Asians have always taken European ideas and improved upon them in engineering.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:38 am to bhtigerfan
There you go. Sharpens my point.
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