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Why is Afghanistan so difficult?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:16 pm
Besides the terrain, why haven't we sealed the deal? I shuttter to think the Taliban have the upper hand in any way - other than being the home team.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 8:19 pm
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:17 pm to tigerpawl
It's full of losers
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:17 pm to tigerpawl
Terrain is a big part. For centuries.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:18 pm to tigerpawl
Because like 80% of the people there don't know or don't care what "Afghanistan" is and don't want to be a part of it.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:18 pm to tigerpawl
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Why is Afghanistan so difficult?
IEDs, caves, suicide bombers, the people there don't even get along with each other, etc...
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:18 pm to tigerpawl
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Why is Afghanistan so difficult?
Try a history book, if the Soviet Union at the height of their military power with zero rules couldn't crush these goat herders how can we?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:19 pm to Strannix
Cause we're trying to fight a war without damaging our poppy fields
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:21 pm to tigerpawl
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Why is Afghanistan so difficult?
It's a shite culture with no desire to change form that.
Ultimately it's a culture problem, not a military problem.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:24 pm to tigerpawl
Where I was.... The Pakistani border was within 25 miles. The enemy would drive across to fight during the day and drive home at night. we weren't allowed to kill anyone not actively engaging us or actively planting an IED even if we knew they were enemy.
THAT WILL CHANGE.
THAT WILL CHANGE.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:26 pm to tigerpawl
Because these people live in the Stone Age and do not want to be enlightened or freed.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:26 pm to tigerpawl
They're the organic expression of Pashtun nationalism.
Or tribalism, that's a better word.
They're Afghanistan.
Or tribalism, that's a better word.
They're Afghanistan.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:27 pm to tigerpawl
Because the people who live there all follow a backwards, hateful religion straight out of 600 AD.
And that twisted belief system is the cornerstone of everything they do.
And that twisted belief system is the cornerstone of everything they do.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:34 pm to tigerpawl
It's like the Wild West but with a bunch of insane Muslims that have not read a single thing their entire life beyond the Koran.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:36 pm to tigerpawl
It's an easy place to blow up stuff and kill people because no one in the world cares
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:40 pm to member12
The war in the 80s destroyed the traditional tribal structure, the one force that really constrained their capacity for violence.
That was perhaps the worst legacy of the war. We enfranchised violent gangsters, just as we undermined the wise old men.
That was perhaps the worst legacy of the war. We enfranchised violent gangsters, just as we undermined the wise old men.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:58 pm to tigerpawl
Thousands of years of taking other people's money and stashing their bodies in the rocky hills. Afghanistan cannot be pacified.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:13 pm to tigerpawl
It's a war ravaged 3rd world hell hole controlled by warring clans.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:16 pm to tigerpawl
They aren't concerned with being a united nation with a central government. They're loyal to their tribe and nothing else.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:22 pm to upgrayedd
A lot of similarities with Nam.
Terrain, indigenous people, and a government who doesn't have it's heart into winning.
Terrain, indigenous people, and a government who doesn't have it's heart into winning.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:31 pm to TigerMikeAtl
Yeah, you've got a large majority of the population that's just trying to survive but they're constantly being caught between the hammer and the anvil. They get held hostage by the Taliban then get shite from coalition forces for "aiding" the Taliban. As soon as we leave, they'll either be terrorized or exploited by the Taliban or some local drug lord. It's a shitty existence where they lose either way.
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