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re: Why have trump's own lawyers not stated he declassified material?

Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:12 am to
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127381 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:12 am to
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… all the President has to do is think about something, without even telling anyone, and now thats official government policy.
Yeah, that is exactly what he did. You figured it out. Congratulations.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42325 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:19 am to
The president as Commander in Chief has plenary power to declassify.

Let me rephrase….They are declassified just by being at MAR.


Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
53720 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:24 am to
Sweet melt bitch
Posted by Dreamville
Member since Aug 2022
15 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:30 am to
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Yeah, that is exactly what he did. You figured it out. Congratulations.

when trump goes away in cuffs you are gonna be sittin in a corner hugging your knees and rocking back and forth, mumbling "but he declassified it, all he has to do is blink at something and its declassified..."

its not true. I have no idea where you people got this idea. you sound ridiculous. he cant declassify nuclear information. he cant declassify the identities of spies. he cant declassify intel controlled by the sender. he cant declassify things through clairvoyance.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25670 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:31 am to
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Why can’t you guys understand all he had to do is say they are declassified.


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there's no evidence he even did that.


Let’s just say you are right and he had classified info.

Hillary Clinton had classified info she manually brought from a secure location (by hand) to her bathroom server. She destroyed phones that were under subpoena. We know this to be true because James Comey came out and said it in a press conference after their investigation. These classified documents may have been taken by foreign powers by hacking her server. Comey said that too. She wasn’t even president and lacked the authority to declassify anything. Nothing happened to her. How are you so sure Trump will be indicted whenever she wasn’t? Because you know that the democrats own the FBI and they are a political tool of the left and they’ll do anything in their power to stop Trump. Your friend Peter Strzok said as much. You guys are the new gestapo. Congrats.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127381 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:32 am to
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when trump goes away in cuffs you are gonna be sittin in a corner hugging your knees and rocking back and forth, mumbling "but he declassified it, all he has to do is blink at something and its declassified..."
You got him this time.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36753 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:37 am to
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Davy, Davy, Davy

The fact that you do NOT engage in this sort of childishness is one thing that makes you a superior poster

I just wanted to see how it felt. Not too bad actually.

Plus I thought it was a tad funny, but that probably just me, literally.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:39 am to
You still believe in the government’s 3 year Russian collusion hoax, don’t you? Tell the truth, now.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:49 am to
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use your words dumdum. if anything I said was wrong, prove it. otherwise shut your mouth little girl.


Tough guy coming in hot with a “guilty until proven innocent” edgy take. You’re just another NPC You’re not special.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:51 am to
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its not true. I have no idea where you people got this idea. you sound ridiculous. he cant declassify nuclear information. he cant declassify the identities of spies. he cant declassify intel controlled by the sender. he cant declassify things through clairvoyance.


Clearly a legal scholar well read on the history of the Presidents powers and court decisions regarding them.

Although originally you said he didn’t declassify them. Now you’re saying he didn’t have the power to declassify them. Which is it? Get your theories straight there champ, you’re going to blow a gasket.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 8:01 am
Posted by BuckPshrink
Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Member since Dec 2018
270 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:03 am to
This is stipulated, POTUS announced declassification numerous times over various platforms. Even Nuc buzzwords have ceased. In the end, we will find POTUS indeed possesses the ability to declass and even possess. However, precedent set, not SecState. (Former)
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 8:10 am
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16063 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:16 am to
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Trump has repeatedly said that the material taken was declassified.

Why aren't Trump's own lawyers making that argument in their legal filing?


Because they didn't charge him with anything.

They just went in and grabbed the documents.

The government hadn't claimed he had any classified documents.

The main stream media has. The government has not.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37534 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:33 am to
That is nonsensical. You make this all seem like a game. If he has the EO or Memorandum even, then he should present it. Short circuit the DOJ and force another avenue that they need to try. If he thinks he can play a high stakes game of chicken with the DOJ, he cannot. The DOJ has too many resources and time. Trump does not have those resources......no one does.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:33 am to
They don’t have to say shite. Ever if they don’t want to. Make the prosecution present their case and respond line by line. You don’t give them anything. Nothing until you have to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37534 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:03 pm to
No and you are a profound idiot for even thinking that. There are procedures that must be followed. He must issue an EO that overrides another EO . All the other Presidents did that, what makes Trump think he did not have to do it?

If he did that and he was in possession, then ultimately he is in the clear. He can't do it after he is out of office.....the President must have some documentation he declassified
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110949 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:06 pm to
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There are procedures that must be followed. He must issue an EO that overrides another EO . All the other Presidents did that,


Where are you getting this? How do we explicitly know what “all the other Presidents did”?
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15724 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:06 pm to
Trump has earned the right to literally be unlawful- I don’t care what he does - our lawmakers are demonic so therefore our laws aren’t righteous anymore - If they try to arrest him I hope he either calls his supporters to arms or flees the country.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17294 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:18 pm to
His lawyers are giving Moderate Merrick and Potatus enough rope to hang themselves.

I always say when conducting any kind of Pretrial discovery. Just let ‘em lie.

They aren’t asking for a list of shite your comrades seized for no reason bc they don’t know what they have dumbass. They’re letting them lie about it under oath and on the record.

God you people are insufferable morons and my apologies to myself for indulging this - but it’s too easy.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37534 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:25 pm to
Uhhh, there's documentation either in the form of an EO or Presidential Memorandum
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37534 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 1:33 pm to
So you are suggesting real sedition because your guy acted stupidly whether intentionally or by bad advice from his advisors.

Oh, I get it, because his motives were "pure" and the other guys had been manipulating the law, he has sanction to then totally disregard....of course, why did I not see it. Besides DJT is on a holy mission, sanctified and justified by God Almighty....am I following this correctly?

Trump is in the right by virtue of him being "Trump".

So simple, the logic just totally evades me.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 1:34 pm
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