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re: Why hasn't the NRA endorsed mental health screens for gun owners?

Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:28 am to
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most gun owners are probably suffering from clinical paranoia


Here we go...

How do you describe a group of people who believe a higher power is going to solve all of their problems?

(You would say "Christians" - I will say "Big Government Liberals" - are we going to classify either group as mentally ill? How come I think you'll be on board for the former and not the latter?)

Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:28 am to
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most gun owners are probably suffering from clinical paranoia


what a broad brush stroke.

what law could have prevented this tragedy?
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:30 am to
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I think you've touched on the biggest problem... most gun owners are probably suffering from clinical paranoia... combined in quite a few, judging from the frequency of mass murders in this country, from sociopathy.




Link?
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:30 am to
Police should have searched his room because his own family has alerted the health agency and subsequently the health agency has alerted the police about him.

The police may not know how disturbed he was, but his family knew and they have taken steps to try and stop him.

There were so many signs that he could have been stopped, and they were all ignored, sadly.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:36 am to
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22769 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:37 am to
Rex find me one mass murder perpetrated by a right wing NRA member.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:37 am to
oh dont add facts, facts cannot fit in the liberal narratives
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:45 am to
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No offense, but when shite like this gets suggested I just laugh at the absurdity of it.


Look, most sane people don't care about fellow sane citizens having a weapon, why? because that sane gun owner isn't going to lose his or her shite in a fit and gun down innocent people to include children.
There is a clear pattern here of highly unstable people with easy, legal access to weapons and with each one of these events you get another day closer to restricting that access.
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:53 am to
Do you deny that one of the principal techniques of the NRA is to instill fear in people?
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:54 am to
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sane gun owner isn't going to lose his or her shite in a fit and gun down innocent people to include children.


Some do and some don't. Mentally ill or not many people have some access to guns (legally or ilegally). More restrictions will not stop it. It may change the method eventually but it will not stop it from happening.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:54 am to
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Do you deny that one of the principal techniques of the NRA is to instill fear in people?
Their gonna put ya'll back in chains!
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22769 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:55 am to
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Do you deny that one of the principal techniques of the NRA is to instill fear in people?
fear of what?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:03 am to
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Do you deny that one of the principal techniques of the NRA is to instill fear in people?


As opposed to the leftist disarmament crowd?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:20 am to
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Do you deny that one of the principal techniques of the NRA is to instill fear in people?



The Diane Feinsteins of Washington D.C. do a fine job of that. In fact, I would say they drive many more to the gun counter than the NRA.

Secondly, since we're discussing fear mongering, let's hijack this thread and focus on the fear mongering that is employed to push through gun control legislation.

Assault Weapons - the biggest threat to the safety of Americans, right?

Gun Shows - people are just buying up everything at these shows and killing motherfrickers left and right. By that we mean less than one percent of violence in the United States, oh and a similar percentage applies to #1 as well. THE SKY IS MOTHERfrickING FALLING!!!!!!!

Background checks - since you've never purchased a firearm, nor are you capable of even using such a simple tool, I'll just let you in on a little nugget of information. You must be a registered FFL to sell a firearm or oversee the transfer of firearms. To complete any transaction, A FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK IS REQUIRED.

Background checks AGAIN - less than two percent of cases where a criminal seeks to illegally purchase a firearm, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS DENIED, are prosecuted. This is the same justice department selling guns to cartel members in the most misguided effort in history to enact gun control.

Fear Mongering, taking statistical outliers, rare events and making them the biggest threat to American safety to accomplish what YOU think is right. The ends justify the means. You don't believe this, but the overwhelming majority of Americans, people for that matter, are good. Regardless of their intelligence, economic standing, gender, race, sexual orientation, "mental health", or political ideology. People are good, and sacrificing our freedoms is NEVER the solution because countless people have given their lives to uphold those ideas. The ends never justify the means.

And that's not what the NRA even does. They just kindly point in the direction of capitol hill so that we can see that dried up count Diane Feinstein legislating us out of our human right. And thank fricking god. Again, the ideas that comprise the United States Constitution (the most important document in WORLD HISTORY) are bigger than the 7 people murdered last week, they're bigger than the 2,000 people who lost their lives in New York. They're bigger than all of us. A life without freedom isn't worth living.

Weaklings, such as yourself, are scared. You're easily manipulated and pushed around. You're unwilling to live with sacrifices to stand behind a principle (in this case, freedom) You keep striving for the perfect world that will never exist, and go about seeking your paradise by traveling in the wrong direction.


now suck my 152 IQ aspergers riddled cock

ETA: I feel compelled to point out that my dick doesn't actually have aspergers, nor can it. I don't want to confuse you since you're so completely uniformed about everything, including Asperger's syndrome
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8645 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:30 am to
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Look, most sane people don't care about fellow sane citizens having a weapon, why? because that sane gun owner isn't going to lose his or her shite in a fit and gun down innocent people to include children.
There is a clear pattern here of highly unstable people with easy, legal access to weapons and with each one of these events you get another day closer to restricting that access.


The vast majority of gun crimes are committed by people whom you and I would consider sane. Why are you looking at extreme statistical outliers to make policy?

Also, do you even HIPAA, bro?
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:33 am to
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Secondly, since we're discussing fear mongering, let's hijack this thread and focus on the fear mongering that is employed to push through gun control legislation.

Because now that their loved ones are gone the Sandy Hook parents no longer have any reason to fear?
quote:

now suck my 152 IQ aspergers riddled cock

Your cock's IQ is twice that of your brain's?

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:35 am to
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Why hasn't the NRA endorsed mental health screens for gun owners?
Because the expansive gulf that opens up for government misues is immeasurable.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:47 am to
Why won't you respond to any of my questions?
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:48 am to
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Because the expansive gulf that opens up for government misues is immeasurable.

Paranoia.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:51 am to
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Why are you looking at extreme statistical outliers to make policy?


Oh the old "nothing to see here" defense. Well its not working, crazy fricks that obtained their weapons legally keep gunning down innocent people and children.
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