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re: Why does the word “nationalism” carry negative connotations?

Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:01 am to
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Because of Nazis

Nope!

The answer is.
Globalism!
One world government. We need to have pride in the entire establishment. Pride in country is bad.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:01 am to
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Even our dictionaries are political
Was blown away the first time I asked Alexa to define conservative and liberal.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:03 am to
Throw "white" in front of it and make it a racist / xenophobic term using the mass media to help perpetuate the lie by using it in conjunction with hate groups like neo-Nazi's and/or the KKK.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:04 am to
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Are you a globalist in favor of one world government? Most nations have committed some kind of atrocity in their history. What "terrible atrocities" has the United States committed? I'll concede slavery and The Trail of Tears, which are relatively minor in scope when compared to events committed by, say, Germany, Japan, The Soviet Union, Spain, Great Britain, China, Turkey...



Oh, idk.. false flags at Pearl Harbor to justify entry into WW2.. dropping nuclear bombs on Japan while in negotiations over terms of surrender. Lying to the public about 9/11 and using it to justify 20 years of conflict in the ME.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18144 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:04 am to
Mainly because of nazis. But, that is just the extreme.

Globalism also has an unsavory extreme. It was the Soviet union.

More deaths have happened under the extreme of globalism compared to the extreme of nationalism.

But...a lot of the world still supports the idea of globalism. The idea of many countries being ruled over by a central power.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 8:08 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62655 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:07 am to
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Oh, idk.. false flags at Pearl Harbor to justify entry into WW2..


Debunked

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dropping nuclear bombs on Japan while in negotiations over terms of surrender.


Debunked, and simply not true.

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Lying to the public about 9/11


Just a lunatic conspiracy theory.

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and using it to justify 20 years of conflict in the ME.


Not an atrocity, just bad, wasteful, policy. I agree; It's time to GTFO of that region.

This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 8:30 am
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18559 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:12 am to
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regardless of the terrible atrocities they commit


I sorta of agree.

The legal and subsidized killing of 50 million innocent babies makes me not so proud to be an American sometimes
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:15 am to
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But...a lot of the world still supports the idea of globalism. The idea of many countries being ruled over by a central power


Under the constitution of the United States -- why would our model not work on a global scale? Alaska and Hawaii aren't contiguous with the rest of the country and do just fine.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 8:17 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:19 am to
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The legal and subsidized killing of 50 million innocent babies every year makes me not so proud to be an American sometimes


You realize there are only ~60 million women of child bearing age in the US right?
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 8:20 am
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18144 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:23 am to
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Under the constitution of the United States -- why would our model not work on a global scale? Alaska and Hawaii aren't contiguous with the rest of the country and do just fine.


Our constitution would be the first thing to go if we become part of a globalist regime.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:28 am to
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Our constitution would be the first thing to go if we become part of a globalist regime.


Why's that?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:30 am to
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Under the constitution of the United States -- why would our model not work on a global scale?
Well, short answer is because the entire globe wouldn't accept living under our constitution unless you're advocating we invade.........the world!
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:32 am to
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Well, short answer is because the entire globe wouldn't accept living under our constitution unless you're advocating we invade.........the world!


Most of the western world would love to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:36 am to
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Most of the western world would love to



MAYBE.

But hell. Significant portions of Europe operate in open disdain of what would be our 1st Amendment alone.

And, they largely aren't fans of our 2nd.

But, that still wouldn't be a GLOBAL activity. It would merely be a western one.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18559 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:37 am to
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You realize there are only ~60 million women of child bearing age in the US right?


Yeah, edited my numbers but didn't take out the "per year"

It was a long night last night
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:41 am to
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But, that still wouldn't be a GLOBAL activity. It would merely be a western one


For now. Takes time to build up the hegemony
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:42 am to
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For now. Takes time to build up the hegemony

Are you just playing Devil's advocate or do you actually support such a thing?
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:44 am to
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They are emotional wrecks and deluded fools


I'm betting that alot of them are on antidepressants

They can't manage their own lives but want to manage everybody elses
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18144 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:00 am to
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Most of the western world would love to ?


Possibly.. but

Western Europe arrests people for saying the wrong things. Our freedom of speech would be abhorred in a lot of western countries.

Then our right to own guns.. globalists have been trying to disarm Citizens for decades.. there's no way they'd support our 2nd.


An entire world living under our constitution would make for a better world. But, the countries that wholely support globalism would in no way, adhere to our constitution.


Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38681 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:03 am to
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Why does the word “nationalism” carry negative connotations?


For the same reason that 'Christian' does. It's the Progressive/MSM strategy (Alinsky version) to take down the principles which are the basis of Individual, Constitutional Freedom Ideology.
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