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re: Why does the cake baker allow gay couples to buy his premade cakes?
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:13 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:13 pm to BBONDS25
Duly noted. So you're saying that it's a good legal argument for someone to "sincerely hold" that Jesus died so that they wouldn't have to sell cakes to homos?
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:16 pm to Woody Glazer
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Duly noted. So you're saying that it's a good legal argument for someone to "sincerely hold" that Jesus died so that they wouldn't have to sell cakes to homos?
I don't know how to type it slower. If you could cite me to one single case where the argument you just posted was made that would be helpful. I will try to save you time. You won't find it...because it is a ridiculous argument made by an ignorant person. I will give it to you. I bit and you trolled me successfully. If this wasn't a troll..I pity you.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:23 pm to BBONDS25
The supreme court is hearing that case right now. Try to keep up!
Basically, the argument is: "because of my sincerely held views of Jesus' teachings, I can't customize a cake for homos."
Basically, the argument is: "because of my sincerely held views of Jesus' teachings, I can't customize a cake for homos."
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:26 pm to Woody Glazer
That's not the argument at all. 
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:30 pm to BBONDS25
Is it about having the religious freedom to believe that "because of my sincerely held views of Jesus' teachings, I can't customize a cake for homos?"
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:45 pm to Woody Glazer
no. Go do some more research and come back. Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:49 pm to BBONDS25
You can't explain it? I accept your resignation. Victory is mine.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:10 am to FooManChoo
That would be objectively better, yes.
It would eliminate the discriminatory nature of the denial of service.
The baker would be free to express his religious thoughts, and the customers would be free to have their own opinion of the baker. Basically, everyone would think the other people were wrong, in their way, but there would be no discrimination based on sexual orientation. (or precedent for discrimination versus any other group under the guise of religious liberty)
It would eliminate the discriminatory nature of the denial of service.
The baker would be free to express his religious thoughts, and the customers would be free to have their own opinion of the baker. Basically, everyone would think the other people were wrong, in their way, but there would be no discrimination based on sexual orientation. (or precedent for discrimination versus any other group under the guise of religious liberty)
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:12 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:16 am to SUB
quote:are you retarded or something?
He's already baked cakes celebrating gay marriage if he baked them under the premise that gay couples could buy them.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:36 am to Woody Glazer
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This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:37 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:38 am to Woody Glazer
You are a functional retard. And I hate to put down retards.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:40 am to Woody Glazer
Do you see lefties. This is what you are reduced to. This idiots posts.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:44 am to BBONDS25
That wasn't very nice, now was it?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:23 am to Woody Glazer
If the Zapato fits.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:28 am to Jeff Boomhauer
So your hot take is the professed Christian should violate God’s command to not lie by lying about why he won’t make a cake that he believes violates God’s commands. Brilliant!
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:36 am to HurricaneTiger
Fair enough. I tend to think that when in doubt I'll side with guaranteeing equal rights for all citizens. The right to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation isn't something I prize too highly.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:39 am to BBONDS25
Yes. Our country was founded during slavery. Guaranteeing equal rights for all citizens was not in the founding fathers' calculus. Laws such as the Civil Rights Act are highly important. Look at how this country worked before there were "protected classes". Raped, murdered, oppressed, run amok.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:02 am to Tigerdev
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discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation
is not even part of the baker's calculus, that is the way you are interpreting it
his entire motivation is to defend his conscience and that is the only action being taken here
the other side sees that exercise of civil right it as discrimination
that is why this situation has become a clash of civil rights
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 5:15 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:05 am to SUB
According to an article he has refused to make cakes for batchlor parties asking for boobs on it and a few other cakes he felt would go against his religious views.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:44 am to Woody Glazer
He didn’t deny them service. He has nothing against gay people eating cake. He is against participating in or being apart of a celebration of a gay wedding. He has that right. By your logic you would criticize a skilled glass worker who refused to make a glass d***o for someone who requested it. It’s not discrimination. Just because he can does not mean he has to. They have the right not to engage in activity they do not believe in for religious or any other reason. The only discrimination comes when people try to punish others who hold to a different world view than theirs.
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