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re: Why Does Black Lives Matter Use People Like Michael Brown and Alton Sterling?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:26 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:26 pm to StrongSafety
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I agree about the rioting, and mainly the property damage. It is self defeating to destroy the community you live in and from a menthal health perspective very unhealthy. There have to be better ways to cope. However, are we being in a way unfair? How strong show we expect an historically persecuted group to be? Do they (and we as individuals) not have breaking points? We all must work to not get there and must find constructive ways to heal and cope, but that's an just an ideal. This by no means justifies the damage and carnage.
I realize that everyone reaches a breaking point. Whether with discrimination, someone hates their job, tired in a relationship, etc.
However, the movement is looking for people to join the cause and fight for justice. Admirable, but from an outside perspective looking in (i.e. a white person) I couldn't help but think "wow this really is a terrible way to lure people to your side. There is no thought or reason behind any of this, it is simply primal rage that will feel good for a bit, but only hamper the success of the cause."
I know a lot of black people believe that that thought I described is not having perspective and showing "privilege" but that's just reality that I bet you 95% of white people were thinking.
If rioting is what they thought was best, then they have to live with that, but the whole situation was handled so poorly by those who wanted to further the cause.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:26 pm to Antonio Moss
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the evidence in both the Sterling and Brown matters
Same thing with Trayvon
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:27 pm to TheXman
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Yes the Philando Castile and Walter Scott cases are the ones that should be the poster children of racist policing...
But even then we had cop sympathizers. Mr. Scott, a veteran that served this country, for a hung jury. At some point, the question has to be, how clean does a murder/killing have to be to Gardner sympathy? For the life of me, it can't be the charleston situation. We can't let that level of hate and evilness be the bar for us. That's why I meant "exceptionalism" shouldn't be the bar. It took a mass murdering terrorist attack for some people to be like "yeah you know what, maybe they were right."
That's frightening and depressing.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:28 pm to PoundFoolish
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Same thing with Trayvon
Wait ZimZam was a cop?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:29 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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You and these eye witnesses
Ok, so what physical evidence disproves that statement. Please explain it to me.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:29 pm to StrongSafety
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That's frightening and depressing.
What's frightening and depressing is the fallacies poured out by certain people who believe that 100% justified shootings were actual cases of "murder."
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:30 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Who is justifying it? I am saying that the whole narrative that he robbed the store was all bullshite to taint his image so people like you could accept that Mike Brown deserved to be shot and killed.
He made a choice though. He chose to sell weed in that convenience store and he chose to assault the store owner.
Then he made the choice to not comply with the officers and then escalated that by trying to grab the officers gun.
No one who has not killed anyone themselves deserves to be killed, but Michael Brown made his choices that day and ultimately paid the ultimate price. I'm not saying he deserved to get killed, but I'm not going to sit here and act like this was some great injustice.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:30 pm to PoundFoolish
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Late to this thread . . . but it boils down to one thing: CERTAIN PEOPLE (GENERALLY FROM A CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC) ACTUALLY BELIEVE THEIR OWN LIES; THEY DO NOT (AND WILL NOT) RESPOND TO LOGIC-BASED TRUTH.
Yes the belief that the South will rise again is asinine, but I am not one to shite on a man's dreams.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:30 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Wait ZimZam was a cop?
He was a person in authority whom Trayshaun was attempting to not only combat, but ultimately brutalize. Zimmerman did the only thing he could have in that situation.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:33 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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So an unarmed teen walks up to a cop and starts throwing hands for no reason?
So a cop just starts a fight for no reason?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:35 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Yes the belief that the South will rise again is asinine, but I am not one to shite on a man's dreams.
weak sauce, wannabe
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:35 pm to PoundFoolish
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He was a person in authority whom Trayshaun was attempting to not only combat, but ultimately brutalize.
Zimmerman had no real authority.
That said, based on the evidence available, the verdict was correct especially for the charge levied.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:37 pm to Antonio Moss
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Zimmerman had no real authority.
Point conceded.
But he did have the right of a private citizen to defend himself.
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That said, based on the evidence available, the verdict was correct especially for the charge levied
That's what gets me everytime with these types of cases . . . the fact that the "perps" are charged with second/third degree homicide
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:38 pm to Dale51
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So a cop just starts a fight for no reason?
Umm yea.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:39 pm to PoundFoolish
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But he did have the right of a private citizen to defend himself.
Defend himself from what?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:40 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Defend himself from what?
from Trayvon bashing his head into the pavement and going for his gun
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:40 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Defend himself from what?
Getting his head bashed in the concrete
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:41 pm to PoundFoolish
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e was a person in authority whom Trayshaun was attempting to not only combat, but ultimately brutalize. Zimmerman did the only thing he could have in that situation.
What in the actual frick?!
Please inform me of what organization governs the fricking neighborhood watch?
You sound fricking ignorant. I'm not even entertaining you anymore.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:42 pm to Antonio Moss
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Getting his head bashed in the concrete
Well it seems to me that this could have all been avoided if he would have minded his business and not approach Trayvon like 911 instructed him to.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:42 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Please inform me of what organization governs the fricking neighborhood watch?
hoa dumbass
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