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re: Why do we need southern Confederate statues?

Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:27 am to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:27 am to
Oh this is still trending? I thought you libs would have found something else to scream about by now.
Posted by TigerPride10
Member since Jul 2007
10356 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:36 am to
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"those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"

Are you this fricking stupid?


So taking down statues and/or not displaying them in our city centers as some sort of weird tribute in the first place means we're ignoring history. Got it.

Yep. Guess I'm "this fricking stupid." You got me.
Posted by TigerPride10
Member since Jul 2007
10356 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:42 am to
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Where was the outrage like 3 years ago? I guess I’m just confused at why it’s all of the sudden en Vogue? I mean honestly, before a couple years ago absolutely no one walked by a confederate statue and thought about ripping it down. Not a soul. Then some loser started a twitter campaign and everyone jumped on board like a bunch of damn lemmings. It’s just sad.



I'll give you that. Part of it is just a result of the zeitgeist now where a sizeable proportion of people get pissed at something and then others demand action. But then again, on some issues, who cares when the "outrage" started? Does it matter whether they were offended when the statues went up during the Jim Crow era or in 2015 if it's a good point?

I've read quite a bit on the Confederacy. I enjoy learning about the war in general. I like tracing my ancestors from Louisiana and learning about how they may have participated in the war. But there's a difference in simply learning about history and appreciating the lessons from it and honoring a side that was clearly in the wrong.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21016 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:48 am to
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Yep. Guess I'm "this fricking stupid." You got me.



Well, at least you admit it, because it's the truth. The hard part is over for ya.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25666 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:54 am to
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So taking down statues and/or not displaying them in our city centers as some sort of weird tribute in the first place means we're ignoring history. Got it.


No, taking down statues will right every wrong that’s happened and make people sleep safer at night. Yea, great point.

And where does it stop? Statues? City names? You going to rename Houston? Will the Democratic Party change their name since they were founded by a slave owner?

Why stop at statues? Where does it end exactly?
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:04 am to
Why aren't they seen as art and forgiven carte blanche and a message attached and southerners seen as creative, inspired artist? Because 99.99% of people don't realize how immersed they are in a world that is manufactured for them to perceive.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64332 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:35 am to
Why do we need to care about the completely irrelevant non-issue of statues? Thats my question.

If you cant see that theyre just a hunk of material shaped in a unique way then idk what to tell you.

Just go scream at the sky a bit to make yourself feel better?

What if a cloud took the shape of a swastika over Cal-Berkeley? Would you want the military to shoot a missile at it?
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 1:48 am
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53688 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:42 am to
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How is having a statue of Robert E. Lee a good thing?


If it bothers you I am for it
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96750 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 2:33 am to
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I like tracing my ancestors from Louisiana and learning about how they may have participated in the war. But there's a difference in simply learning about history and appreciating the lessons from it and honoring a side that was clearly in the wrong.


In that case, you should shed half of your paycheck for reparations to TBird. You know, to feel better about yourself n all
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:10 am to
May the stolen "Blue Man Group/ humanoid space alien thing" statue from BR be moved onto your front yard.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:15 am to
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Pretty sure black people like living in the South more than the North, generally, so they should like Confederate statues as much as anybody else who lives here.


Cool. Yeah, tell black people what they like because it's your turf.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28489 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:21 am to
Idgaf whether the confederate white supremacy monuments are in the public square or not, but two things do matter. 1. If they are going to take down a statue, they should replace it with other public art. Public art is important. 2. That statue of P.T. Beauregard that was by City Park in New Orleans was gorgeous. It should be somewhere where people can see it.
Posted by NoisyNinja79
Member since Dec 2017
304 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:21 am to
Sure, let's erase it... I am sure that it won't happen again after everyone has forgotten it.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20701 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:08 am to
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wazoo11
51 posts and you start a thread with this shite. GTFO. Go kill yourself.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138492 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:39 am to
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and appreciating the lessons from it and honoring a side that was clearly in the wrong.
To the victors go the spoils, and the history books, and the ability to determine nothing but badness was on the losers' side, nothing but goodness on the winners'. George Washington never told a lie, Abraham Lincoln was a wonderful and compassionate human being who meant no harm or offense to anyone, rah, rah, rah.

The lessons you learned taught you the crystal clean schism of truth between the good side and the evil side in a war which killed more Americans than WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam combined? Really? Lessons like that come from books best categorized as fiction.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:44 am to
If I was a black American I would be proud that my people raised from slavery to be at where they are today. Still a work in progress. Its us crackers that look bad with regards to the slave trade. I'm not proud of what my ancestors did and down right embarrassed how the blacks were treated during the early to mid 1900's.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 4:47 am
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6748 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:51 am to
Why does Seattle have a statue of Russian communist Vladimir Lenin? At least Robert E Lee was an American. And your posts suck.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:06 am to
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Isn't it enough for black people to be not reminded of their oppressed history?


Then maybe you should stop the drumbeat then. What does more to "remind" of black folks' oppression: statues, or the Democrat Party?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:04 am to
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Why do we need southern Confederate statues?

Bc northern Confederate statues don't kill people
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53688 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:12 am to
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Its us crackers that look bad with regards to the slave trade.


You’re aware that mostly blacks ran the slave trade inside Africa correct?
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