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re: Why do they say “climate change” instead of “global warming” now?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:42 am to BamaScoop
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:42 am to BamaScoop
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Because Global warming is bull shite and climate change is a naturally occurring phenomena that can;t be argued against.
I read it has something to do with earth being on some kind of axes, like 23 degress...
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:45 am to browl
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Check the U.N. agenda 21 and agenda 2030. Climate change is fabricated for wealth shift out of the USA.
Redistribution of wealth is the goal of the environmentalist movement.
I have a friend who is fond of saying the communist of the 50's and 60's are the environmentalists of today.
They couldn't gain traction with communism in this country so they switched to a more benevolent moniker seeking the same results.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:46 am to BamaScoop
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climate change is a naturally occurring phenomena that can;t be argued against.
They are using exquisite sophistry and nothing more.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:57 am to Twenty 49
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NASA says it's getting hot out there
It may well be happening.
NASA also says its getting hotter on Mars and every other rocky planet in the solar system.
Might be that the big ball of gas 93,000,000 miles away is playing a part.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:59 am to Twenty 49
Just look at that hockey stick.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:08 am to Parmen
Now go say 3 "Hail Al's" and turn on your solar rechargeable faux candle light.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:18 am to Sidicous
Out of curiousity, can anyone debunk the specifics of global warming on here?
Not just call it fake news and mention 'libtards' but actually explain to me in scientific terms why its garbage?
Not just call it fake news and mention 'libtards' but actually explain to me in scientific terms why its garbage?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:19 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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Out of curiousity, can anyone debunk the specifics of global warming on here?
The greenhouse effect violates the second law of thermodynamics.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:20 am to Parmen
Because it's an ambiguous description that allows their premise to never be wrong.
Too hot = climate change
Too cold = climate change
Too much rain = climate change
Too little rain = climate change
Too hot = climate change
Too cold = climate change
Too much rain = climate change
Too little rain = climate change
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:23 am to Parmen
Do any of them argue that the earth isn’t warming?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:28 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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Out of curiousity, can anyone debunk the specifics of global warming on here? Not just call it fake news and mention 'libtards' but actually explain to me in scientific terms why its garbage?
Yes. I've posted about 1,000 pages of explanations. The very short story:
The computer data has been continuously falsified by NOAA and NASA. They get caught. They try again.
All studies proving that GW does not exist were banned from climate conferences at Montreal and Kyoto.
Land weather stations were caught placed by thermal emission industrial vents. Thousands of them. They were moved and promised not to do it again.
The policy burden by GW alarmists rest on 4 steps. ALL FOUR must be true:
a. Global warming is happening. It's not. But if it is then...
b. Humans are causing it. It's not. It happens naturally. But if it's humans cause it then...
c. It has to be really bad. It isn't. Warming increases crop production. Impacts like oceans rising haven't happened long after deadlines for catastrophe were set. But if they have then...
d. Humans can reverse global temperatures. They can't. Unless you really think driving an electric car will change global temperature.
If one of these GW assumptions is false, then all of GW advocacy is false.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:31 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
Why should something clearly BUNK have to be debunked?
I got it. Let's pay scientists to make up science, not NOT pay scientists who don't agree. Let's even use guv entities or corroborate the science. Then when there is more paid science in existence than detraction, the sheep will believe it, and in all of their wisdom, call for science to prove wrong the publicized paid science.
People are paid to come up with these processes and have been doing it since before we were all born.
On youtube:
LINK
I got it. Let's pay scientists to make up science, not NOT pay scientists who don't agree. Let's even use guv entities or corroborate the science. Then when there is more paid science in existence than detraction, the sheep will believe it, and in all of their wisdom, call for science to prove wrong the publicized paid science.
People are paid to come up with these processes and have been doing it since before we were all born.
quote:
CNN Destroyed By Weather Channel Over Climate Change
On youtube:
LINK
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 10:38 am
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:53 am to Zach
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a. Global warming is happening. It's not. But if it is then...
b. Humans are causing it. It's not. It happens naturally. But if it's humans cause it then...
c. It has to be really bad. It isn't. Warming increases crop production. Impacts like oceans rising haven't happened long after deadlines for catastrophe were set. But if they have then...
d. Humans can reverse global temperatures. They can't. Unless you really think driving an electric car will change global temperature.
If one of these GW assumptions is false, then all of GW advocacy is false
Okay so you started it off by claiming fake news. And even if reports have been faked, doesn't mean its all BS theory.
D. says everything you need to know about your point of view. You imply that thinking reducing car emissions will help the environment is stupid.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:56 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
You should read D again. Not what it says you says it says. How fitting.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:25 am to Parmen
Real Talk
Global warming is still a perfectly valid and widely used term. It never went away. Some climate scientists have always preferred the term climate change because, while global warming is a perfectly accurate name in that human activity is causing the average temperature of the surface of the earth to increase, in doesn't capture the fact that that increase in temperature will disrupt weather patterns leading to things like more severe winters and winter storms in certain areas. But both terms are now and have always been widely used amongst scientists.
The anti-science right seized on the term "climate change", not because they thought it captured more of the subtlety of the situation, but because think it sounds more vague and less threatening to an ignorant listener. Followers of the anti-science right who get all of their news from right wing echo chambers started hearing "climate change" more than "global warming" and so have falsely concluded that the term global warming has somehow been rejected by the scientific community completely, and the same anti-science right wing media has taken advantage of this by reinforcing that false idea even though THEY are the only ones that ever rejected the term "global warming" to begin with.
Now, I'm sure some paragon of anti-science right wing thought will respond to this by saying, "HURR DURR, GLOBAL WARMIN CANT CAWZ WINTER STORMS, LULZ." But that's just the kind of reductionist, overly simple thinking that fools use to reject facts and expertise that make them uncomfortable.
Global warming is still a perfectly valid and widely used term. It never went away. Some climate scientists have always preferred the term climate change because, while global warming is a perfectly accurate name in that human activity is causing the average temperature of the surface of the earth to increase, in doesn't capture the fact that that increase in temperature will disrupt weather patterns leading to things like more severe winters and winter storms in certain areas. But both terms are now and have always been widely used amongst scientists.
The anti-science right seized on the term "climate change", not because they thought it captured more of the subtlety of the situation, but because think it sounds more vague and less threatening to an ignorant listener. Followers of the anti-science right who get all of their news from right wing echo chambers started hearing "climate change" more than "global warming" and so have falsely concluded that the term global warming has somehow been rejected by the scientific community completely, and the same anti-science right wing media has taken advantage of this by reinforcing that false idea even though THEY are the only ones that ever rejected the term "global warming" to begin with.
Now, I'm sure some paragon of anti-science right wing thought will respond to this by saying, "HURR DURR, GLOBAL WARMIN CANT CAWZ WINTER STORMS, LULZ." But that's just the kind of reductionist, overly simple thinking that fools use to reject facts and expertise that make them uncomfortable.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:36 am to TigersInParis
How fitting that this tool is in Paris.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:45 am to TigersInParis
All that jibberish and not ONE IOTA OF ACTUAL SCIENCE.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 11:46 am
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:48 pm to Errerrerrwere
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All that jibberish and not ONE IOTA OF ACTUAL SCIENCE.
Just like the fracking is bad slurpers.
MYTH!!!!!!
Why do they lie and opress muh 'merica??!!
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:49 pm to Parmen
Because it snowed yesterday and saying global warming would sound silly.
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