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re: Why do states with high average IQ vote D while states with low average IQ vote R
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:37 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:37 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I didn't mean to come across as a personal dig. I just thought the quip about "inner city NY" seemed a bit misplaced, if you thought about it for a second. It's likely one of the denser concentrations of high IQs in the country, and that has not much to do with any correlation to political persuasions. In other words, I'm with you on the general premise behind such a silly exercise.
Understood, and to be fair, I'm not a NYC expert. Didn't take it personally (I'm not easily offended....
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"Inner city NY" was probably not the right way to put it. I'm talking about the welfare demographic in large densely populated urban centers that the democratic party depends on.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:34 am to StrongSafety
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But hey, only those characterizations apply to blacks, when those they are the minority population dragging the south down, or they say ?
This is basically what I'm saying. Don't you all realize that your making yourself look worse. You are blaming a minority (ie less than 15 percent of the population in some states) for all of the problems.
Corrupt politics, Poor education systems small white dominant towns, and the lack of industry has done more to hurt the modern South than natives will ever admit.
There are alot of whites in this state who have little education in terms of trades or college.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:48 am to Upperdecker
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en you have to deal with demographics on a daily basis, you tend to not feel sorry for them and you vote R to take away funding from them. The liberal states don't ever deal with demographics
I understand. But shouldn't you see results from doing that.
We have a Republican dominant South, yet only a few states like Texas do not depend on federal money.
It also has done Nothing to bring business to state like Louisiana.
I can't change a racist mindset. I'm Black and I've done well,but it primarily was based on outside influences from my K 12 education
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:56 am to wmr
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The reality is that Africans didn't "decide not to" plunder other regions. They never developed a civilization or superior technology capable of plundering others
Look up the Zulu Tribe. The Mfecane.
Admittedly, there is not a lot of recorded history but Africans did accomplish many things.
The best way to think of early African Civilization is like the Mayans , Aztecs, or other tribal based civilizations
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:37 am to Zach
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This is the theory of Lionel Jeffries' Ice People and Sun People. But he says it's because the cold weather forced white people to be conniving thieves and venture out to plunder other lands.
Blacks had abundance in warm climate so they became very nice and decided not to venture out and hurt others.
Nice - until someone wants someone else's tennis shoes.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:42 am to Machine
Dude I've roamed this board a few times but never posted and I can honestly say that people that see post like this sincerely believe that you and that toddy guy are probably certified retards that can't even think of an original thought without first scanning CNN
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:59 am to zatetic
1. Those images don't really support your point. In your first image, the cited ASPM paper states that only a certain allele of the ASPM gene originated in Eurasia. It doesn't claim that the gene or the allele are exclusive to certain races.
2. One of the statements doesn't appear anywhere in one of the papers you cited ("Common variants at 6q22..."). In fact, that same paper accepts the Out of Africa hypothesis. I suspect someone misinterpreted the study and wrote their own interpretation of its conclusion.
3. The "no continuum" image doesn't appear anywhere in the paper you cited. Besides, the point of that paper was to help learn more about the genetic bases for disease. It has nothing to do with classifying human subspecies. The conclusion you have drawn is not supported by the goal of that study.
4. The cursory research I have performed on Volkmar Weiss tells me that his studies are controversial at best. The quotation in your image doesn't even cite any specific study of his.
5. The authors of the EST00000083 paper do not think there is a casual relationship between this polymorphism and IQ. In fact, in their study, they only sampled people from the British Isles and Mongolia. The point of their study was not to determine if there were significant differences among races for the existence of this variant. Even if there were, it still wouldn't support your point, since the authors referred to another study where low-IQ caucasian children also did not have the variant at the same frequency as high-IQ white kids.
6. In your first image, look at the summary that begins with "MCPH1". The word "intelligence" appears no where in the paper that is cited. The point of that paper is to attempt to reconstruct the evolutionary history of that gene since variants of it can cause microencephaly. This is yet another misinterpretation.
Tl;dr - The creator of your images basically uses dubious or misinterpreted information to make his point, none of which is supported by the authors, except for maybe Weiss.
2. One of the statements doesn't appear anywhere in one of the papers you cited ("Common variants at 6q22..."). In fact, that same paper accepts the Out of Africa hypothesis. I suspect someone misinterpreted the study and wrote their own interpretation of its conclusion.
3. The "no continuum" image doesn't appear anywhere in the paper you cited. Besides, the point of that paper was to help learn more about the genetic bases for disease. It has nothing to do with classifying human subspecies. The conclusion you have drawn is not supported by the goal of that study.
4. The cursory research I have performed on Volkmar Weiss tells me that his studies are controversial at best. The quotation in your image doesn't even cite any specific study of his.
5. The authors of the EST00000083 paper do not think there is a casual relationship between this polymorphism and IQ. In fact, in their study, they only sampled people from the British Isles and Mongolia. The point of their study was not to determine if there were significant differences among races for the existence of this variant. Even if there were, it still wouldn't support your point, since the authors referred to another study where low-IQ caucasian children also did not have the variant at the same frequency as high-IQ white kids.
6. In your first image, look at the summary that begins with "MCPH1". The word "intelligence" appears no where in the paper that is cited. The point of that paper is to attempt to reconstruct the evolutionary history of that gene since variants of it can cause microencephaly. This is yet another misinterpretation.
Tl;dr - The creator of your images basically uses dubious or misinterpreted information to make his point, none of which is supported by the authors, except for maybe Weiss.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 3:42 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:03 am to jpbTiger
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Got a link (links?). Would like to explore more on my own, thanks.
The cited studies are blatantly misinterpreted in his images. You'd do better just reading the cited papers without the commentary.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:08 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:15 am to GumboPot
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Demographics.
Although the OP is a failed attempt at making some point, this doesn't really answer the question.
It's like if I asked "why is college football so popular in the South?" And you answer "Because southerners like football".
Responding to these questions with "demographics" is just as shallow of a response. Why do black students score lower on IQ tests and standardized tests? Why is black student achievement so far below their counterparts?
These are the follow-up questions these threads tend to lack.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:39 am to volod
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Every single southern state is predominantly white.
Go look up some numbers on demographics then get back to me on which states have higher percentage of whites. It's not the south.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:41 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:47 am to jpbTiger
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"Inner city NY" was probably not the right way to put it. I'm talking about the welfare demographic in large densely populated urban centers that the democratic party depends on
They also have the rich families in the nearby gated subdivisions.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:28 am to dgnx6
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Go look up some numbers on demographics then get back to me on which states have higher percentage of whites. It's not the south.
I read somewhere that Mississippi is almost 40% African American.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:37 am to Machine
quote:because if you're a rich mother fricker with only cap gains income, you want a D In office raising the shite out of income tax keeping others from reaching your level.
Why do states with high average IQ vote D while states with low average IQ vote
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:43 am to LordSaintly
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Responding to these questions with "demographics" is just as shallow of a response. Why do black students score lower on IQ tests and standardized tests? Why is black student achievement so far below their counterparts?
If black people are obviously better at some things to the point that they are 75 or 80% of the NFL why is it so hard to believe they could be less equipped in other areas?
and when states like MS, LA, GA have high 20 to low 30" of them that would affect their scores everywhere
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:48 am to Machine
Twice a year some idiot Proggie starts a thread like this, gets proven wrong, just so they can cry racism.
Why does it get 10 pages every time?
Why does it get 10 pages every time?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:59 am to Machine
Sounds about right. High average "idiots" quotient vote D and the low "idiots" quotient vote R.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:01 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Doesn't really matter does it man they can say stupid shite and we can call them out on it in other words we get great entertainment and they get the attention they so desperately seek
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:46 am to gthog61
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If black people are obviously better at some things to the point that they are 75 or 80% of the NFL why is it so hard to believe they could be less equipped in other areas?
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I don't think "demographics" is the wrong answer, I just don't think it's a interesting answer. It only scratches the surface, IMO.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:00 am to gthog61
quote:Yep.
states like MS, LA, GA have high 20 to low 30"
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Mississippi 37.30%
Louisiana 32.4%
Georgia 31.4%
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:20 am to ShortyRob
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2 things
1. States don't have IQs
2. You don't understand stats
oh my
Rob, you might want to pull a Billy Madison and go back to grammar school. i said average IQ. if you thought i was talking about the average IQ of the state and not its population...you might be legally retarded :(
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