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re: Why do many of the unvaccinated cite conspiracy theories to justify their choice?

Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11366 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:13 pm to
I would rather have a shot of covid than a shot of the vaccine. I’ve had covid it was laughable.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:18 pm to
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I would rather have a shot of covid than a shot of the vaccine. I’ve had covid it was laughable.


Exactly what I said in another thread, however I noted last year that we thought we got the rona in January of 2020. Never tested for antibodies though.

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12900 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:24 pm to
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Chinese bio weapon.


If this is a Chinese man made bio weapon then wouldn’t our government know about it? And if they know about it and they’re lying, what would stop them from lying about a vaccine?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6467 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:26 pm to
Stupid question based on the lack of critical thinking processes. Must have missed that class in High School.

Considering that the UNvaccinated are infecting other unvaccinated and vaccinated ......

An Administration loading up Illegal aliens and shipping them to the inner cities .....A population in which once tested represent approximately 90% of the positive cases in the country ....

The Black and Hispanic population refusing to get shot. How about ship their butts back the country they left? It's cheaper to ship them back first class than it is to support their butts.

Now try another half thought ...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:32 pm to
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cite conspiracy theories


Bruh...

You are living through the following:

A global pause for a “pandemic” deemed by MSM
A massive push to vaccinate the entire planet (not a risk stratified approach which would not be unreasonable)
The US government formally acknowledging UFOs
The mysterious death of a wealthy financer who trafficked underage girls for sex and likely blackmailed global elite for clandestine services
Said financer has direct ties to wealthy frick who is pushing biotech exploits (who also owns WHO, CDC, and Chocrane collaboration)
MSM skewing polls for last 2 election cycles
Election fraud /witching hour manipulation

And on and on

The current “conspiracy theorists” are just pointing out how absurd this all is
Everyone else refuses to face this so they instead judge everyone else as “crazy”

Judging is easy
Thinking is hard...


Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79068 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:34 pm to
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verifiable data
m
FDA approved alright right?

Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
33330 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:34 pm to
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You done any acid man?


Yeah a shitload.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:36 pm to
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The Black and Hispanic population refusing to get shot

wtf are you talking about? They're getting shot all the time.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73566 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:37 pm to
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Yeah a shitload.


It all makes sense now with you
Posted by montjrtiger
brookhaven, ms
Member since Aug 2008
152 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:42 pm to
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Don't understand statistics?

Like freaking out about a virus with a 99.7% survival rate?

Like slamming on the brakes of the economy for an infection whose real mortality rate is less than that of an average year's automobile fatalities when you take co-morbidities out?

Or are you meaning ones like how despite the pandemic, 2020 had no more significant deaths than any other of the past 5 years?

Which statistics do we not understand? Because those seem pretty fricking remarkable.




Obviously you don't

Using the estimate of the 2020 population from the Census Bureau, the death rate in 2020 was 10.4 deaths per 1,000, the highest death rate since 1943. However, the recent population estimate does not incorporate the results of the 2020 Census.

During January–December 2020, the estimated 2020 age-adjusted death rate increased for the first time since 2017, with an increase of 15.9% compared with 2019, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population. COVID-19 was the underlying or a contributing cause of 377,883 deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000).Apr 9, 2021

Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020 | MMWR - CDCLINK › mmwr › volumes

Rate ratios compared to 18- to 29-year-olds1
Rate ratios compared to 18-29 year olds
0-4 years old 5-17 years old 18-29 years old 30-39 years old 40-49 years old 50-64 years old 65-74 years old 75-84 years old 85+ years old
Cases2 <1x 1x Reference group 1x 1x 1x 1x 1x 1x
Hospitalization3 <1x <1x Reference group 2x 2x 4x 6x 9x 15x
Death4 <1x <1x Reference group 4x 10x 35x 95x 230x 600x
All rates are relative to the 18- to 29-year-old age category. This group was selected as the reference group because it has accounted for the largest cumulative number of COVID-19 cases compared to other age groups. Sample interpretation: Compared with 18- to 29-year-olds, the rate of death is four times higher in 30- to 39-year-olds, and 600 times higher in those who are 85 years and older. (In the table, a rate of 1x indicates no difference compared to the 18- to 29-year-old age category.)

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:42 pm to
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Why do many of the unvaccinated cite conspiracy theories to justify their choice?


Why do many of the vaccinated cite conspiracy theories such as Bill Gates didn't say he wanted to depopulate the planet?

Or the conspiracy theory that Fauxci doesn't make a ton of money off the most expensive covid drugs.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39424 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:44 pm to
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The educated among us evaluated risk using verifiable data and made our decision to either get vaccinated or not.

You made your choice.

Why not just leave it at that instead of spreading what you know is absolute BS?


Where do I start here?

First of all, you come right out of the gate with the "we're educated and you're not" cliche, which kills any chance you had of being taken seriously.

Second of all, you clearly get your information about the *gasp* unvaccinated from sources that carry water for the administration. Did you really believe that poll that said 40% of people think the vaccine has a microchip in it? Come the frick on, friend. No one thinks that. And no meaningful group of people think that the vaccine is a child robbing, life stripping, zombifying concoction meant to cure society of the great unwashed. That's all in yours and CNNs imagination.

Now, lets get to the meat in this jambayala of truth. You have fallen into a classic trap. See.. the vaccine debate is nothing more than the new theater in the democrat's class war. Sexual preference, race, and even trannies have all jumped the shark -so a new class war arises. One that not only invites condemnation, but allows for economic discrimination and societal marginalization based on vaccine status. Too convenient for today's cancel-happy left, don't you think? You ate it right up in spite of that impressive education of yours! Its how they've controlled their voters since the 60's.

So here we are. YOU, Mr. Educated, have not only allowed political grifters tell you what unvetted chemicals to stab into your arm, you've allowed them to tell you how I feel about said chemicals. You've even let them convince you that I even give AF about your burning desire to get jabbed for the supreme leader. So its no wonder you despise my decision to wait on vaccines, even though, in reality, you have no fricking clue why I've made that choice.

What makes your OP most guiling is, LITERALLY NO ONE that is holding out is trying to convince you not to vax. To the contrary, the political left is preparing a goddamned door to door campaign, threatening passports, and compulsory vaccinations. Your entire OP is a strawman, and evidence that you allow politicians and their lackeys to filter your truth.

Go to where you got your education and ask for your dad's money back.




Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:29 pm to
I agree with LSU TIGER “there are NOT known long term consequences for this taking this jab”.
That’s exactly my position as for why I haven’t taken the vaccine.I’m not anti-fax,I don’t believe crazy conspiracy theories,I’m just waiting to see if any long term negative consequences show up.It’s happened before-Vioxx,fen-phen,thalidomide.
I don’t trust the government ,CDC,FDA nor the media.
I don’t trust the medical establishment.Drs.as a whole engage in groupthink and recommend what the majority of their colleagues believe.Yet they have been wrong many,many times over the history of medicine.Back when bloodletting to let out the “bad humours” was conventional practice,I am sure any Drs.that didn’t engage in it were considered to be incompetent and were ostracized.
Read the Dr. Barry Marshall story.He was excoriated by the medical establishment but went on to win the Nobel prize in medicine for discovery of helicobacter.
I am beginning to believe the vaccinated cohort keeping pounding on us un -vaccinated
to validate their choice to take the jab.Maybe they are not quite sure of their choice as they profess.

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7278 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:39 pm to
Because the majority of them believe the government exists to care for us and the CNN and MSNBC mouthpieces would NEVER lie to them (cough, Russian collusion, cough). They blindly follow Rachel Maddow and Morning Joe because they tell them they are virtuous and present themselves as highly intelligent.

So most just want to be on the perceived "moral" side
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57923 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:41 pm to
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Why not just leave it at that instead of spreading what you know is absolute BS?


When the CDC, WHO and Fauci are constantly flip flopping positions daily, where is all your knowledge coming from?
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:45 pm to
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I agree with LSU TIGER “there are NOT known long term consequences for this taking this jab”.
That’s exactly my position as for why I haven’t taken the vaccine.I’m not anti-fax,I don’t believe crazy conspiracy theories,I’m just waiting to see if any long term negative consequences show up.It’s happened before-Vioxx,fen-phen,thalidomide.
I don’t trust the government ,CDC,FDA nor the media.
I don’t trust the medical establishment.Drs.as a whole engage in groupthink and recommend what the majority of their colleagues believe.Yet they have been wrong many,many times over the history of medicine.Back when bloodletting to let out the “bad humours” was conventional practice,I am sure any Drs.that didn’t engage in it were considered to be incompetent and were ostracized.
Read the Dr. Barry Marshall story.He was excoriated by the medical establishment but went on to win the Nobel prize in medicine for discovery of helicobacter.
I am beginning to believe the vaccinated cohort keeping pounding on us un -vaccinated
to validate their choice to take the jab.Maybe they are not quite sure of their choice as they profess.



How about we simplify it further? Let's say the vaccine works, than why is the White House actively testing people and putting people into protocol?

None of the following are needed if you have a working vaccine:

- no testing, unless someone is seeking medical attention
- no masks
- no social distancing
- no lock downs
- no vaccine passports
- no quarantines
- no protocols for infected

Clearly, the higher ups don't believe something. If there is effective working vaccine than there is no reason why people should get mad if they just go live their lives without vaccinations.

This all sounds like desperation.

This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7278 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:47 pm to
Sorry for being naturally skeptical, bro
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:47 pm to
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When the CDC, WHO and Fauci are constantly flip flopping positions daily, where is all your knowledge coming from?



This^^^^^^^

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57923 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:48 pm to
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Why do many of the unvaccinated cite conspiracy theories to justify their choice?


Is it a conspiracy that Biden is letting millions of unvaccinated illegals flood our southern border?
Why would he do that if he perceived covid to be such a deadly threat?
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11876 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:48 pm to
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goofball


And you vacc people call Trump supporters a cult
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 6:49 pm
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