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re: Why do American Christians support Israel?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:22 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:22 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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Israel bombs the shite out of Christian parts of Syria every Christmas day
But the American media does not cover it
Let's be clear america fights for the almighty dollar.
Supporting christians and fighting the infidels is just how you get the country to let you do and allow whatever is needed to keep that moving forward
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:26 am to Shamoan
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God’s chosen people. / thread
It’s all over the Bible
God's chosen people are those who accept Jesus Christ
Galatians 3:29
are you going to downvote Paul's verse?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:33 am to dclt145
You are conflating Gods covenant with the Israelites (old covenant, but one made by God with a chosen people), with the new covenant which Jesus Christ represents, literally and figuratively. God made a covenant with Abraham that is unbreakable from God’s perspective. As long as those that follow that covenant and uphold their responsibilities, God so loved the world that he made a new covenant to eliminate legalism, lowering the bar for sinners like us and moving from a legalistic and merit/repentance/sacrificial relationship to one of complete surrender and dependence on grace. I am 38 years old and over the last 5 years, I’ve just begun to understand how beautiful Gods grace is, despite growing up a believer. Jesus referred himself (to Jews) as the New Covenant. That is your answer.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:35 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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God's chosen people are those who accept Jesus Christ Galatians 3:29
Galatians doesn’t exclude Jews from also believing. Paul himself was a believing Jew.
None of this nullifies the promises of God that he made to Abraham and exclaimed would be fulfilled in the last days.
Read what it says in Romans 11. If we ( Gentiles) the wild branches, could be grafted in the olive tree (Jesus ) how much more can the real branches ( Jews) be grafted back in after being cut off.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 12:40 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:41 am to OMLandshark
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People like the Duggars I’m sure are rooting for the deaths of every last man, woman, and child in Palestine. This is no where near the majority of Christians.
absolutely correct
there are videos out there of John Hagee standing up in a sermon calling for war against Iran - and John Fatass Hagee can't justify why - and dumbass people stand up in the crowd cheering, because they are brainwashed idiots
"Christians" who want to send our boys to die for no reason other than the sperm they swallowed from John Hagee and other Satanists
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:42 am to Harry Rex Vonner
on the contrary, I encourage diversity of thought, as I don’t see myself as any type of scriptural authority...not even close, but see my last post to understand my perspective.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:42 am to SCLibertarian
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:45 am to Revelator
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The theme that the Jews are God’s chosen people is woven throughout the entire Bible and isn’t some new teaching.
Wrong
Those who accept Jesus Christ are God's chosen people. That's what is woven throughout the entire Bible.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:48 am to Roger Klarvin
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The 100% literal, six day creation and 6-10k year geneology as described in Genesis is the most intriguing to me. It's an entirely indefensible, easily falsifiable idea held by tens of millions of American christians and virtually completely absent from the rest of the christian world or christian history. Even early Jewish theologians, and virtually all of the early church fathers, read the early parts of Genesis prior to the flood account as partially or entirely symbolic. Mainstream orthodox Jewish thought has ALWAYS been that the creation account is non-literal.
But Jim Bob from small town Alabama thousands of years after the fact has finally figured it out.
wow
so you failed physics
Roger Klarvin, I'll remember to turn my back on you
physics dumbass, physics
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:48 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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there are videos out there of John Hagee standing up in a sermon calling for war against Iran - and John Fatass Hagee can't justify why - and dumbass people stand up in the crowd cheering, because they are brainwashed idiots
You keep bringing up strawmen like Hagee, but won’t address the clear scriptures I posted.
There are many false teachers and doctrines about many things, but that doesn’t change the plain reading of God’s word, nor does it nullify his promises.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:52 am to NashvilleTider
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The 6 day creation makes total sense when you understand relativity - what’s billion of years to us could easily be 6 days to God. In Peter it says a day is like a thousand years to God. Time is relative. .
so you believe Darwinism?
you think "the deer stretched their necks to reach the leaves on the higher trees and then evolved into giraffes"?
damn dude
Life did not pop into existence from non-life
Corrupt "Supreme Courts" do not define reality
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:53 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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Wrong Those who accept Jesus Christ are God's chosen people. That's what is woven throughout the entire Bible.
You seem to be conflating two separate terms. We, as the saved of God are considered sons of God or children of God.
The term,” people of God or God’s chosen people always referred to the Jews. You seem to think admitting the plain truth that Jews are called God’s chosen people, somehow takes away from what he’s done for us Gentiles?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:54 am to Craig86
Palestinians are vile racists. Pretty much all of them.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 12:57 am
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:56 am to dclt145
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dclt145
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Why would God's chosen people be those who reject Jesus Christ and hate on those who believe in Jesus?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:58 am to Harry Rex Vonner
It’s more complicated than that. David, “a man after God’s own heart”, won’t be condemned to hell (I don’t think) because he didn’t believe the Holy Spirit conceived a child with a virgin birthing a son named Jesus who was completely sinless and was brutally killed only to rise from the dead, hundreds of years before it actually happened. He had no way of knowing any of that apart from Gods own intervention and difficult to discern Old Testament prophecy. That applies to all hall-of-fame Old Testament personalities. Old and new covenant. Again, only talking about my understanding, so I could be dead wrong.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:58 am to JackieTreehorn
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Jews have different beliefs but won’t murder us Christians and our families for simply having an opposing viewpoint. Whereas the savage Muslims murder at will and their religion preaches violence to all non Muslims. I’m on team Israel 10/10 times.
You do realize that there are many Palestinian christians being murdered by Israeli bombs currently?
And all religious extremists are nutjobs. There are good Muslims, just like good Jews and good Christians.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:58 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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you think "the deer stretched their necks to reach the leaves on the higher trees and then evolved into giraffes"?
No, because that’s not part of evolutionary theory. That’s Lamarckism, an idea that nobody within the biological sciences has endorsed or believed in in well over a hundred years.
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Life did not pop into existence from non-life
That’s abiogenesis, which also has nothing to do with evolution by natural selection. Evolution doesn’t attempt to explain where life came from, only what happened to it once it was here.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:59 am to LRB1967
wow you're intellectually corrupt
Galatians 3:29 dude
stop lying to yourself and others
Galatians 3:29...the verse idiots hate
Galatians 3:29 dude
stop lying to yourself and others
Galatians 3:29...the verse idiots hate
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:00 am to JackieTreehorn
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Jews have different beliefs but won’t murder us Christians and our families for simply having an opposing viewpoint.
Israel and that douchebag atheist POS Benjamin Netenahu bomb the shite out of Christians sections of Syria every Christmas day
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:02 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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so you failed physics
Nope, but you’ve clearly never seen the inside of an undergrad biology classroom. I’d assume you got your entire understanding from the Discovery Institute, but your understanding of the topic is even below theirs.
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