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re: Why did we turn over new home construction to immigrant labor?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Your illegal and demographic changing vermin are still leaving out country.
Tough shite for you America-hating, White-people-hating, Constitutional Republic-hating leftists.
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You seem confused.
Are you a liar, an idiot, or equal parts of both? I'm betting on the double.
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:26 am to weagle1999
Easy…when Mr. homebuilder became worried about the costs of labor in construction pricing and some one told him he knew someone cheaper that ultimately ended up being the illegals in Home Depot parking lot…that is when we turned home construction to immigrant labor.
But it is not just home construction, heck even some shipbuilders around here get their welders and laborers by way of immigration. Some companies grew tired of the churn of workers getting a nickel an hour more down the road from a competitor only to hire them back at an even higher wage to stay competitive.
But now, some of these companies are knee deep in immigrant work forces or have shut down or consolidated into larger companies.
But it is not just home construction, heck even some shipbuilders around here get their welders and laborers by way of immigration. Some companies grew tired of the churn of workers getting a nickel an hour more down the road from a competitor only to hire them back at an even higher wage to stay competitive.
But now, some of these companies are knee deep in immigrant work forces or have shut down or consolidated into larger companies.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 7:33 am
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:31 am to Mouse Finbar
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Are you a liar, an idiot, or equal parts of both?
Neither.
You seem to be confusing me with a type of person that I'm not, which spins that question back on you.
I've been pretty open as against illegal immigration for a long time on here, for example. It's never been something that I supported as long as it's been a crisis.
I don't hate white people.
I'm literally arguing in another thread for states rights and to protect our Constitutional protections over our democratic republic.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:32 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:So you are stating that it is ALL Covid related and that there is no correlation between a huge (record setting) spike in illegal immigration to government spending then on to inflation?
Yet your graph starts in late 2018 and there isn't any skyrocketing until Covid
I bet if you move the graph further back in time, it further refutes this point
So you are saying illegal immigration was not a factor at all in inflation?
How about the spike in PPI in 2008 following a spike in illegal immigration to 12.2 million in 2007?
Oh, that was just the housing crisis that, to you, is probably proto-MAGA's fault.
These 'housing crisis' do have a habit of following spikes in illegals as a contributing factor.
You just want to dismiss the correlation because you can't find a way to blame it on MAGA.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:35 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Couldn't prove that by the responses in your thread.
Neither.
You seem to be confusing me with a type of person that I'm not, which spins that question back on you.
I've been pretty open as against illegal immigration for a long time on here, for example. It's never been something that I supported as long as it's been a crisis.
quote:Democrats HATE White people.
I don't hate white people
Did you vote Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris?
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I'm literally arguing in another thread for states rights and to protect our Constitutional protections over our democratic republic.
We don't have a "democratic republic".
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:40 am to I20goon
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So you are stating that it is ALL Covid related a
That spike in your graph? Yes. Clearly.
You can find similar graphs about almost anything from that time period. What did illegals have to do with, say, new cars? Graphics cards? Steak?
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So you are saying illegal immigration was not a factor at all in inflation?
Illegal immigration is typically deflationary, for obvious reasons.
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Oh, that was just the housing crisis that, to you, is probably proto-MAGA's fault.
There is no such thing as "proto-MAGA" and the housing crisis was primarily due to consumers acting poorly on a large scale and easy credit. This "greed" (for lack of a better word permitted other actors at various, higher levels of the economy to act poorly on a large scale, amplifying it with their own easy credit, creating a bubble.
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You just want to dismiss the correlation because you can't find a way to blame it on MAGA.
What silliness. Where have I brought up MAGA, ITT, other than to dismiss your stupid "proto-MAGA" comment above?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:42 am to I20goon
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So you are stating that it is ALL Covid related and that there is no correlation between a huge (record setting) spike in illegal immigration to government spending then on to inflation?
2021 and 2022 inflation came directly from shutting down the country, giving trillions of dollars to idle people, then reopening the economy.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:43 am to Mouse Finbar
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Couldn't prove that by the responses in your thread.
Which responses, exactly? The one where I commented on 90-degree angles?
Or the one where I pointed out obvious Covide-related inflation that was trying to be blamed on illegal immigrants?
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Democrats HATE White people.
I'm not a Democrat
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Did you vote Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris?
No.
0/4
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We don't have a "democratic republic".
We do. I can prove it to you: Did you vote for Trump?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not a Democrat
Communist? Socialist? Nazi?
AOC's Green sycophants?
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We don't have a "democratic republic".
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We do. I can prove it to you: Did you vote for Trump?
We have a Constitutional Republic. Democracy is mob rule.
Vote for Trump 3 times. Would have voted 25 times, but I didn't want to act like a Democrat.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:49 am to SlowFlowPro
I dont necessarily agree with that. Designed stronger, sure. They're actually engineered for minimal material usage vs the old way of looks strong enough. The prints aren't drawn crooked though and a load bearing wall that isn't plumb is a big problem.
It really doesn't matter though. Houses aren't collapsing anywhere because even if they are compromised they're still strong enough. It only really matters when youre working on it and have to fight everything being crooked. Me personally though, im not ok with making such a gargantuan financial commitment to something hastily thrown together and filled with expensive faucets and door knobs and counter tops and called "premium grade."
I want 6" walls on 16" centers, steel exterior doors, an HVAC system properly designed and installed, etc. Functionality. Functionality isn't what sells right now and you dont need exceptional craftsmen to do much of anything except the parts the white girls can see to sell a house for a dump truck full of money.
It really doesn't matter though. Houses aren't collapsing anywhere because even if they are compromised they're still strong enough. It only really matters when youre working on it and have to fight everything being crooked. Me personally though, im not ok with making such a gargantuan financial commitment to something hastily thrown together and filled with expensive faucets and door knobs and counter tops and called "premium grade."
I want 6" walls on 16" centers, steel exterior doors, an HVAC system properly designed and installed, etc. Functionality. Functionality isn't what sells right now and you dont need exceptional craftsmen to do much of anything except the parts the white girls can see to sell a house for a dump truck full of money.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:52 am to Mouse Finbar
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Communist? Socialist? Nazi?
AOC's Green sycophants?
No
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We have a Constitutional Republic. Democracy is mob rule.
You're describing pure/direct democracy, which I didn't say
We're a Democratic, federal, constitutional republic, if you're getting technical.
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Vote for Trump 3 times.
Literal proof that we're a democratic republic
Voting = democratic
Representative = republic
Thank you.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Voting = democratic
Representative = republic
Take a Civics class.
Tell Californians about "muh democracy".
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:09 am to Mouse Finbar
quote:Calm down. Do more reading than posting until you've been here for awhile.
Mouse Finbar
Member since Aug 2025
226 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:13 am to Diamondawg
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Mouse Finbar
Member since Aug 2025
226 posts
Calm down. Do more reading than posting until you've been here for awhile.
I have been in this nation all of my life. I have a good handle on what has happened.
Maybe you should scroll past my posts. Worry about yourself.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:14 am to Mouse Finbar
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I have a good handle on what has happened.
You just cant comprehend it.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:14 am to Mouse Finbar
What he's trying to say, via euphemism, is that you're coming out swinging and being an example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. He's trying to help you stop embarrassing yourself.
I'll post this meme to do the same thing, but in another way
I'll post this meme to do the same thing, but in another way
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:26 am to I20goon
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I'm not trying to make the case that illegal, or migrant, labor is actually not cheap.
It is not that much cheaper than hiring Americans. Especially when the work is sh*t and there are multiple fixes/repairs that have to be done.
I inspect houses all over the US for various energy programs. I have seen $1million homes built like crap due to cheap labor.
The best homes I have seen built are Habitat for Humanity homes.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:36 am to ItTakesAThief
Yea LOL. A dollar to them goes a lot further than a dollar to an american kid.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:37 am to weagle1999
In 2005 I had my Katrina-damaged roof replaced by a local company, and my neighbor had his replaced by a crew of Mexicans. His was done in half the time it took to finish mine, for less than half what I paid.
I had a house built in 2007 in north Georgia. The contractor’s crew was 100% hispanic. Maybe one of them spoke english.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:39 am to jamboybarry
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They’re cheap, disposable and the American public is largely dumb as frick as to what constitutes quality in residential construction
I love builders who think what they do is rocket science!
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