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re: Why did Lockdown Don like locking down the country so much?

Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:27 pm to
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Explain Kemp and GA? Sweden? Clearly he viewed it as being the right call, this is something you will never be right on because Trump's actions and words speak for itself. That said I am not the one highlighting this, it is Trump himself with the stupid nicknames.



Why would I need to explain anything? Between Ron and Don, who ordered a shut down? It’s a simple question.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131189 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:29 pm to
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You DeSantis retards are weak

Very weak.

DeSantis-Trump will not be determined against Trump based on Trump's Presidential decisions. If the DeSantis camp goes there, RDD will lose.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20769 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:31 pm to
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Sorry you don’t like that fact.

What fact do I not like?

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Never said trump wasn’t accountable. I said between the two only one issued an order.

And between the two, only one had a federal beaurcracy creating all the bullshite hype about Covid, scaring the living shite out of every Leftist and the soft 2/3rds of the Right, and issuing guidance for governors and mayors to follow.

What are the chances any governor other than a whackjob Dem shuts anything down if Trump's executive branch handled Covid as it should have been handled, and DT was out front rallying troops to deal with the virus like adults?
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12031 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:32 pm to
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Just remember, trump didn’t lock down Florida, or Georgia, or Louisiana.


Trump didn’t lock down any state!
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46107 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Trump needs to watch his mouth regarding Covid. A lot of what he did or failed to do gave governments the permission to frick over its people

tru dat - I haven't actually gotten onto Trump over his handling of the lockdowns and mandates because I thought he had done as much as he could individually (he was not a medical expert - and unless he had some official declarations to rely on he couldn't go on his mere 'hunches')

But he damned sure ought not to be demeaning those who DID either go on their hunches or following different advice once it turned out they were right.

His piling on can only appeal to the know-nothing crowd that inhabit the DEMRINO sides of the aisles.

Stay away from that bullshite - promote what you did - and deride what you were prevented from doing - don't go out of you way to demean friendly competition.

This is a BAD path to take.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24979 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
Project Warp Speed for the vaccine.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20769 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Trump's Presidential decisions. If the DeSantis camp goes there, RDD will lose.

Not sure why this makes sense to you.

I think there are points to be won by being critical of some of Trump's decisions/actions. Not just on Covid. No different than Trump's campaign scoring points by calling into question some of RDS's actions.
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4401 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Why would I need to explain anything? Between Ron and Don, who ordered a shut down? It’s a simple question.



I said Ron made a mistake, notice how I can actually say that about somebody I support. He then quit listening to everyone else, did what he thought was best and his state thrived as a result while the left ripped him to shreds for it. Meanwhile you have Trump trying to ridiculously tear him down, it is a joke and everyone can see it except a certain group.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 3:39 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53164 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:36 pm to
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And between the two, only one had a federal beaurcracy creating all the bullshite hype about Covid, scaring the living shite out of every Leftist and the soft 2/3rds of the Right, and issuing guidance for governors and mayors to follow.


K. Why did Ron fall for it? Why did ton shut down his state? Most importantly, why do you give Ton a pass for it?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53164 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:36 pm to
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I said Ron made a mistake, notice how I can actually say that I about somebody I support.


Go back and read my very first post in this thread before you pull a muscle patting your own back.
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4401 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:38 pm to
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DeSantis-Trump will not be determined against Trump based on Trump's Presidential decisions. If the DeSantis camp goes there, RDD will lose.



You can say the same about DeSantis and Covid, yet here we are.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20769 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:39 pm to
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Why did Ron fall for it?

Are you expecting me to argue Ron didn't make a mistake? I don't think he was a true Covidian, but to the degree he locked any thing down for however long that was, he made a mistake.

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Most importantly, why do you give Ton a pass for it?

I don't?

But I don't blame a governor for what happened across the country. The fact is the Covid shitshow was led in great part by bureaucrats Trump was responsible for.

You ignored this question, let's try again - do you think Ron or any sober Republican governor shuts his state down to any degree against the guidance of Trump's CDC, if Trump's CDC had gotten it right?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46107 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:41 pm to
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deal with the virus like adults?

I was disappointed in his lack of action also - BUT - he has an obligation to go along with the officially declared experts in the medical fields unless he had enough info to remove them from their duties.

Remember - at this stage very few had any sort of credentialed data on how bad the thing was - most of us had our suspicions, but were far from any reliable data. That is because the ROT was so widespread and invasive that only the brave whistleblower or outside expert had any REAL information to offer.

I think he had enough business acumen to go on his own for economic matters and enough 'America first' spirit to offer a different political path that would appeal to patriots. But he had ZERO medical expertise to declare = "the CDC is WRONG. the WHO and NIH are IIMIBICLES.

however - this disparaging of those who DID walk that plank and prove to be right is a bad thing to do.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53164 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:41 pm to
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You ignored this question, let's try again - do you think Ron or any sober Republican governor shuts his state down to any degree against the guidance of Trump's CDC, if Trump's CDC had gotten it right?


I think trump and desantis handled Covid poorly. I also think it’s hilarious when one group of supporters tries to vilify the other candidate over their reaction to Covid. I don’t have a dog in this hunt. I will vote for whoever the republican nominee is. I’m just enjoying the show.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20769 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:42 pm to
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I think trump and desantis handled Covid poorly. I also think it’s hilarious when one group of supporters tries to vilify the other candidate over their reaction to Covid. I don’t have a dog in this hunt. I will vote for whoever the republican nominee is. I’m just enjoying the show.

Why didn't you answer the question?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29223 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:42 pm to
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Go back and read my very first post in this thread before you pull a muscle patting your own back.


There are several on here who are defending Trump because he didn't himself have the constitutional authority to lock down states. That is silly because his rhetoric still helped guide the policymaking of red states. In large part, he also let Fauci as well as the CDC rule over virtually all segments of our society by fiat until he left office.

But that is beside the point. Trump is the one whining like a bitch about DeSantis on his Twitter knockoff yet again, with revisionist history. You can "no more mean tweets" all you want, he still looks like a retard and so do those squirming to defend him like good little sycophants.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 3:43 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59419 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:44 pm to
I never wanted to kick down. But I can’t say it was obvious at the time.

Trump was wrong. It cost trillions. Having said that he was one of the first wanting to open up and faced huge opposition from the left. That cost many more trillions and did major damage to kids.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53164 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:44 pm to
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Why didn't you answer the question?


Because the answer would be pure speculation. What we do know is what happened.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131189 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:44 pm to
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You can say the same about DeSantis and Covid
Negative. Not even close. RDD was not POTUS. If he ever is, he will find himself under constant fire just as did Trump. Maybe he will be as effective warding it off. If so, then one could say the same thing about RDD.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53164 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:44 pm to
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You can "no more mean tweets" all you want, he still looks like a retard and so do those squirming to defend him like good little sycophants.


This is just as trite a response as those you are mocking.
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