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re: Why did Massie give the DOJ the ability to redact whatever it wanted in HIS bill?

Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:41 am to
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:41 am to
Why did they vote unanimously to give her this authority?
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:45 am to
That so every page of the Epstein files will look like this:


Market Tip of the Day:
Buy stocks in Black ink and toner today, the market will be lit with all the people printing the Epstein files looking for one word that matters TRUMP.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 6:49 am
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:51 am to
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I thought they wanted the names released

Ro Kanaha and Massie embarrassed themselves
what happened to MTG reading the names from the House floor (where she is protected from repercussions)?

And to answer OPs question:
quote:

Why did Democrats unanimously vote to allow
it is called sunk cost.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 6:53 am
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:55 am to
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Already heard a tds patient say this today

Trump has already scrubbed the Epstein files

Clown world


Several 'social media' influencer have already said this, getting the plebs that follow them believing that Trump has scrubbed his name and any friends of his from the list.

They know that this list 'won't get him'......

I'm excited to see what there next 'we got em' accusation is.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:26 am to
What Massie and MTG voted for
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:14 am to
They got some cheap headlines
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:39 am to
@massie bros
Posted by ArizonaTiger97
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:40 am to
The same reason Republicans did.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:42 am to
But I thought Massie was about getting the cabal??? Why did he include this is his bill?
Posted by Sassafrasology
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:49 am to
The entire purpose of releasing the Epstein files is to expose or corrupt and depraved intelligence community. Bondi will do everything to now protect them under the guise of “national security”.

The left versus right or R versus D is such bull shite. The intelligence community owns both of their asses.
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:39 am to
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Already heard a tds patient say this today

Trump has already scrubbed the Epstein files


Yeah, I have heard this from several MSNBCtards.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 11:00 am to
Not surprised
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:19 pm to
Bump :)
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:22 pm to
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So they can blame all redactions on Muh Drumpf!


Who did the redacting?

That’s the person responsible for redactions.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:53 pm to
Possibly
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:09 am to
Bump.

Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:15 am to
This has been explained they have to follow guidelines.

Why waste this time? The DOJ should be answering why people being co conspirators quitting stepping down, shamed... are not in prison.

Why did GWBushs admin give epstein and exactly who as co conspirators a sweetheart deal and immunity? This is what GM is litigating she was given immunity.

It is insane.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:25 am to
Grok was helpful in expounding on the redaction language.

quote:

The legislation sponsored by Rep. Thomas Massie (along with Rep. Ro Khanna), known as the **Epstein Files Transparency Act** (H.R. 4405, enacted in late 2025 and signed by President Trump), required the Department of Justice to release all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials related to Jeffrey Epstein's investigations, prosecutions, Ghislaine Maxwell, flight logs, and associated individuals or entities. The bill explicitly outlined **narrow, permitted reasons for redactions or withholdings** to balance transparency with protections. These valid reasons, as detailed in the bill text (particularly in sections addressing permitted withholdings and prohibited grounds), included: - **Personally identifiable information of victims** — Redactions allowed for victims' personal information, medical files, or similar details where disclosure would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. - **Child sexual abuse materials (CSAM)** — Any depictions or content defined under 18 U.S.C. 2256 and prohibited under related statutes. - **Materials that would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution** — Permitted only if narrowly tailored and temporary. - **Images of death, physical abuse, or injury** of any person. - **Properly classified information** — Specifically authorized under Executive Order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy (with a requirement to declassify to the maximum extent possible). The bill also included strong prohibitions: No records could be withheld, delayed, or redacted on grounds such as **embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity** (including to government officials, public figures, or foreign dignitaries). All redactions required written justification published in the Federal Register and submitted to Congress. In practice, Massie and others (including Khanna) have publicly criticized the DOJ's implementation, arguing that observed redactions (e.g., of certain men's names and photos in released files) exceeded these limits and lacked valid justification under the law—often appearing to protect non-victims without fitting the permitted categories. Massie has stated there was "no reason in our legislation that allows them to redact the names of those men" in such cases, and the act emphasized limited redactions "mostly to protect the identities of Epstein’s victims." For the full bill text, see the congress.gov entry for H.R.4405 or related resolutions like H.Res.581 that incorporated similar language. Recent events (as of February 2026) show ongoing disputes over compliance, with some redactions later reversed after congressional review.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:55 am to
Good question
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