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Why aren't the unvaxed comming together.

Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Sack531
Member since Jul 2019
503 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:31 pm
It seems that with more businesses mandating the vaccine, the unvaxed masses would find a way to come together to support themselves. Create businesses that are unvaxed friendly. There has to be people who have the money and know how to figure it out.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81451 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:32 pm to
Our heads are spinning from all the losing tbh.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:34 pm to
IMO, the answer isn't the free market.
Our government can't allow any private business to force healthcare. It is a basic human right to be free of any kind of forced or coerced healthcare.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:36 pm to
We need to stand strong. Don't cave. Each person who caves is one less person to push back.
Posted by Sack531
Member since Jul 2019
503 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:43 pm to
I agree to an extent, but how do we push back when we're just getting pushed out? The proverbial gun to the head scenario.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78968 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:44 pm to
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Create businesses that are unvaxed friendly


Yea give me 5 years to build tons of warehousing, buy machinery etc.

That just isn't possible but they should be moving towards creating non-woke corporations.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:45 pm to
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I agree to an extent, but how do we push back when we're just getting pushed out? The proverbial gun to the head scenario.



Force the companies to fire you.

Firing productive employees costs companies a lot of money. They lose all of the investment they had in the productive employee, and then have to go through the expensive process of hiring and training new employees.

A company who has to fire 20-30% of their productive workforce.... thats a lot of money and hurts their bottom line.

Nationwide the economy can't handle that either. 20-30% of the national workforce being fired? That would no doubt lead to a recession. The economy is already treading on fragile ground right now.

Hold the line. We have more leverage than you know.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

We need to stand strong. Don't cave. Each person who caves is one less person to push back.


Correct. And you have to understand that there are PLENTY of people like myself who decided to take the vaccine for our own reasons but will NEVER support what's currently going on. Consider me the white people who stood next to MLK on his marches. Sure, I could give up my integrity and show a fricking vaccine card to go places but it would be against everything I believe in, so I'll refuse to patronize any business that enforces this mandate.

I said this from the minute I took it back in April and I mean it even more today. I'll never prove my vaccine status to anyone except my own doctor. People need to start being VERY vocal about this and then stand put.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81451 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:50 pm to
What of your mortgage or finding a new job without the vaccine? I’m holding on as long as I can but unless something changes fast I’ll have to get the fricking vaccine or move across the country to live in my parents spare bedroom in my 40s. I think I’d rather take my chances with the vax than do that, mate
Posted by SCUBAislander
Member since Feb 2007
2796 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:52 pm to
I agree we need to stand together. I'm ready to fight the machine but believe me when they decide to take this fight to my front door (literally) I will shoot.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

I said this from the minute I took it back in April and I mean it even more today. I'll never prove my vaccine status to anyone except my own doctor. People need to start being VERY vocal about this and then stand put.



This is why I don't want to go the forged vaccine card route. It's still complying.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35041 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:55 pm to
If we don’t come together we will surely come separately.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:56 pm to
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What of your mortgage or finding a new job without the vaccine? I’m holding on as long as I can but unless something changes fast I’ll have to get the fricking vaccine or move across the country to live in my parents spare bedroom in my 40s. I think I’d rather take my chances with the vax than do that, mate



This is why I haven't bought a house yet and still rent. I don't want to be chained anywhere.

The one thing I am trying to do is build up my savings accounts.

I hate job searching... my last 2 job searches took 5 months each... but I don't want to sell myself out. If a company mandates vaccines, what else will they mandate in the future? I wouldn't want to work for that company.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7804 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:57 pm to
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Hold the line. We have more leverage than you know.

Collective bargaining works.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

This is why I don't want to go the forged vaccine card route. It's still complying.


Correct. It gives the impression you've given into their plan, but are just trying to find a way around it.

Oppose it as long as you can if you can. If you can't, you can't. but if you CAN and don't because even though you disagree with it but your life would be a bit easier or you're tired of hearing the complaints about it, then (and I hate saying it this way but whatever) you're a big part of the problem.
Posted by Sneauxghost
Member since Sep 2020
1082 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:58 pm to
You’re right. I just don’t comply. I’ve been kicked out a few times from stores. I lived. Just purchased elsewhere in larger quantities.
Haven’t donated to LSU in a few years due to their shite either. They keep asking. ???????
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27072 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Create businesses that are unvaxed friendly. There has to be people who have the money and know how to figure it out.


Yeah, you are asking a lot of some people that might not be in a position to stand up to the vaccine mandate... On the same note, why would you expect someone with money to risk it at this point in time to create jobs for a populace that has been nothing but hostile to businesses, not to mention a government that is looking for every way possible to tax the frick out of businesses and people with money...
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:02 pm to
29, 2 kids and wife, and positive for anti-bodies post COVID in February. That's been the case with 3 blood tests since. Tomorrow is our deadline at a fortune 50 company. Was on the way to go get the shot earlier in the week purely to save my job and called my wife saying I do not want to do this. She said turn around.

I filed for a medical extension that I'm sure will be rejected in no time. Days appear numbered, but I'm at peace with it despite what I stand to lose in Q4 and Year End bonuses. Shouldn't have a problem bouncing back, but still incredibly disappointed with how it's led here.
This post was edited on 9/30/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12713 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:04 pm to
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I’m holding on as long as I can but unless something changes fast I’ll have to get the fricking vaccine or move across the country to live in my parents spare bedroom in my 40s. I think I’d rather take my chances with the vax than do that, mate

This is a prime example of why most will fold. Over half of this country can't survive if they miss a paycheck or 2.

The people that will inevitably stand their ground on this are those that either a) know their employer can't afford to get rid of them, or b) can afford to be fired if it comes to that.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27072 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Was on the way to go get the shot earlier in the week purely to save my job and called my wife saying I do not want to do this. She said turn around.


Got a lot of respect for this... Hope you bounce back quickly but you really need to go ahead and contact an attorney if for no other reason to make life miserable for your company...
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