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Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:51 pm to 9th life
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we should, but perhaps that isnt common sense gun control.
What would you like to see done on the gun control front?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:59 pm to upgrayedd
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What would you like to see done on the gun control front?
I would like to see more extensive background checks.
I dont see why there cant be mental health check ins every 2 years or so. no different than renewing a drivers license.
I would like the assault weapons ban from the 90s to return.
I used to be opposed to handguns more vehemently: i view their purpose solely to be to surpress another human being. but as others have said, for the purposes of self defense, I can see the need to supress another human.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:03 pm to 9th life
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I would like to see more extensive background checks.
Do you think that will eliminate a significant amount of murders?
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I dont see why there cant be mental health check ins every 2 years or so. no different than renewing a drivers license.
You have to get a mental health check to drive a car?
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I would like the assault weapons ban from the 90s to return.
Pretty sure that had no significant effect on gun deaths.
quote:So, you want to ban guns that are responsible for a small amount of deaths but not the ones that are responsible for the majority of deaths?
I used to be opposed to handguns more vehemently: i view their purpose solely to be to surpress another human being. but as others have said, for the purposes of self defense, I can see the need to supress another human.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:03 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Link me to a national figure who is pushing for the ban of handguns
I was under the impression that they were.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:04 pm to 9th life
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I would like to see more extensive background checks.
Ok. To include what?
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I dont see why there cant be mental health check ins every 2 years or so. no different than renewing a drivers license.
Because driving on public roadways is a privilege meted out by the state entity that maintains those roadways. Owning a firearm is an enumerated right. You legally couldn't implement this without repealing the 2A. Additionally, only a judge, not a "mental health" evaluator, can suspend a person's rights.
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I would like the assault weapons ban from the 90s to return.
It didn't actually ban anything material to the operation of a semi-automatic rifle. What exactly would that do?
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:08 pm to upgrayedd
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You have to get a mental health check to drive a car?
Sorry, commercial drivers licence. left a word out.
and not mental health, but physical health. Make sure none of those guys fall out from diabetes from all the fast food they eat on the road. Required by law to have a physical performed by a registered physician and then it is the licensee's responsibility to then file that physical with their DMV.
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So, you want to ban guns that are responsible for a small amount of deaths but not the ones that are responsible for the majority of deaths?
Yes. that appears to be exactly what i am saying.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:08 pm to TideCPA
They never say what "more extensive background checks" entails. As if an FBI background check isn't sufficient.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:16 pm to 9th life
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I dont see why there cant be mental health check ins every 2 years or so. no different than renewing a drivers license.
You're confusing a right with a privilege. Driving a car is a privilege, owning a gun is a right.
Do we now get to test people before they can vote too?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:17 pm to 9th life
quote:Brilliant!
So, you want to ban guns that are responsible for a small amount of deaths but not the ones that are responsible for the majority of deaths?
Yes. that appears to be exactly what i am saying.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:17 pm to 9th life
quote:You spent any time at a truck stop lately?
Sorry, commercial drivers licence. left a word out.
and not mental health, but physical health. Make sure none of those guys fall out from diabetes from all the fast food they eat on the road. Required by law to have a physical performed by a registered physician and then it is the licensee's responsibility to then file that physical with their DMV.
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Yes. that appears to be exactly what i am saying.
At least you'll admit your proposed policy makes no sense.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:24 pm to upgrayedd
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At least you'll admit your proposed policy makes no sense.
It might make sense if the goal has nothing to do with saving lives.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:25 pm to upgrayedd
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You spent any time at a truck stop lately?
Ive spent my entire professional career around truck drivers. They are some of the hardest working men and women in this country. I dont get the
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At least you'll admit your proposed policy makes no sense.
Why does it make no sense? With the obvious outlier of VTech, handguns are not used in mass shootings. I dont want to die running errands just so some incel can try to beat another incel's high score. I'll run the risk that I am a decent moral person and that no one will seek me out to kill me individually.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:27 pm to 9th life
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I dont want to die running errands just so some incel can try to beat another incel's high score. I'll run the risk that I am a decent moral person and that no one will seek me out to kill me individually.
You're more likely to drown in your bathtub than in the scenario you laid out above.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:32 pm to 9th life
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Ive spent my entire professional career around truck drivers. They are some of the hardest working men and women in this country. I dont get the
There are a shitload of them that are obese and weird as well but seem to be slipping through the cracks of your golden standard for gun ownership.
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Why does it make no sense? With the obvious outlier of VTech, handguns are not used in mass shootings.
Handguns are used in the majority of mass shootings.
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I dont want to die running errands just so some incel can try to beat another incel's high score. I'll run the risk that I am a decent moral person and that no one will seek me out to kill me individually.
You're gonna rely on your morality to protect you from a person trying to kill you? That's a new one.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:32 pm to TideCPA
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You're more likely to drown in your bathtub than in the scenario you laid out above.
you, or a family member, are more likely to die from your own guns than from a home invader. STATISTICS!
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:34 pm to 9th life
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you, or a family member, are more likely to die from your own guns than from a home invader. STATISTICS!
I'm well aware. I'm not the one trying to ban objects that kill fewer people than bathtubs, though. Because STATISTICS.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:39 pm to upgrayedd
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There are a shitload of them that are obese and weird as well but seem to be slipping through the cracks of your golden standard for gun ownership.
Well, every one of them has passed a DOT physical and has navigated that bureaucratic impossibility. All so we can be safer on the roads. Sorry, they dont look healthy to you. I dont really care about how people look who own guns, just as long as they are fit to own them.
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You're gonna rely on your morality to protect you from a person trying to kill you?
No one has tried to murder me yet.
that is not a challenge.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:43 pm to 9th life
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Well, every one of them has passed a DOT physical and has navigated that bureaucratic impossibility. All so we can be safer on the roads. Sorry, they dont look healthy to you. I dont really care about how people look who own guns, just as long as they are fit to own them.
Yeah, criminals will be lining up for their gun ownership physicals.
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No one has tried to murder me yet.
that is not a challenge.
You haven't been killed in a car accident or a house fire yet either. Perhaps you should get rid of those useless seat belts and fire extinguishers.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 2:47 pm to upgrayedd
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Yeah, criminals will be lining up for their gun ownership physicals.
Criminals have the right to bear arms?
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