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re: Why are "they" so obsessed with mentions of 'FLAT EARTH'? Just a silly "CT", right?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:50 am to Liberator
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:50 am to Liberator
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You're all over the truth on this.
I'm a skeptic- agnostic at best about the shape of the earth. There are holes in both models. Things that cannot be explained. What I'm not is myopic with regards to my senses and how I experience the world.
It's hard for me to believe that I can see the moon regularly at 1600 in Arizona in winter time, and also see it at 0200 in Jerusalem in the winter.
I have seen Nantucket from Falmouth Beach with the naked eye even though it should be around curvature.
But I'm not sure I fully believe in the concept of a black sun that causes eclipses either.
There is much that is unexplainable about our world.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:52 am to BoarEd
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This thread is fricking ridiculous. I'm convinced this flat Earth bullshite was pumped by nefarious actors with the purpose of making all "conspiracy theorists" look like fools.
Hey Ed -- I agree with your position 90% of the time.
And to prove it, at one time I was actually ON RECORD as agreeing 100% with your same "CT" thesis that FE was designed to make ALL "CTs" look bad.
Guess what? I was proven wrong. The Truth shocked me too.
Now IF FE is actually a "CT" (instead of spinning ball earth as the REAL "CT", then why are Google and Gummint agencies fearing it so much, declaring it "dangerous"? (you'll find where there's smoke, there's fire.)
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:52 am to Liberator
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Hey Ed -- I agree with your position 90% of the time.
I don't care. This thread is stupid.
I've done land surveying work where we regularly had to account for curvature of the Earth in order to make the calculations work. Ask any professional land surveyor (who's fricking job it is to map the Earth) what they think about this theory and they will laugh in your face.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:54 am to CleverUserName
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Why can you not observe it from one side of the flat earth.. and not the other? It’s a flat plane. The line of sight is the same.
For the same reason you can't see Lisbon from NYC, even with a telescope. The atmosphere obstructs the view.
The human eye is limited in its range of sight. Telescopes are limited. I'm sure you believe, hypothetically, that if you were standing on a solid moon and looked through a telescope that people in Australia would appear to be upside down compared to people in in NYC??
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:57 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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For the same reason you can't see Lisbon from NYC, even with a telescope. The atmosphere obstructs the view.
Lisbon is on the flat earth. NYC is on the flat earth.
Polaris is not on the flat earth. It is above the center of the flat earth map. It is not on the flat plane. It’s above it.
What is obstructing the view… if it’s above the flat plane??? In the center of said flat plane?
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even with a telescope. The atmosphere obstructs the view.
But Polaris is in the center, above a flat earth. If it’s in the center…… why can’t it be seen from anywhere that is claimed to be in the Southern Hemisphere… if points in the Southern Hemisphere is just as close to it.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:59 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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I'm a skeptic- agnostic at best about the shape of the earth....There is much that is unexplainable about our world.
Truth. Healthiest mind set.
The problem is, people are programmed, locked into the mind set of "IT'S SETTLED" when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Moreover, THE point that can't be ignored: IF gubmint and their Narrative is lying about nearly everything else, WHY then should NASA and "spinning ball earth" with it's claim of Cosmology's "Millions of Light Years outer-space" be immune from scrutiny and being part of a systematic Big Lie?
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I'm not sure I fully believe in the concept of a black sun that causes eclipses either.
I agree --That's a wild one.
Back to your "inexplicable" factor, I believe there IS something we can't see/sense that creates some eclipses. "Science" can't explain it because it deals solely in the Physical realm.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:59 am to BoarEd
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Ask any professional land surveyor (who's fricking job it is to map the Earth)
You mean map the Earth with the predisposition that the Earth is a ball?
If you start with the pretext that Earth is a ball, of course all of your evidence is going to suggest the Earth is a ball.
Land surveyors aren't conducting experiments. They're acting on good faith that the information they have with regards to the shape of the Earth is correct before they begin the process. They prove nothing by their measurements.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:01 pm to CleverUserName
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What is obstructing the view… if it’s above the flat plane??? In the center of said flat plane?
The atmosphere and distance.
More atmosphere and distance than if you're standing in Christchurch than NYC.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:01 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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The atmosphere and distance. More atmosphere and distance than if you're standing in Christchurch than NYC.
Then why can it not be seen anywhere in the southern part of the globe.. but on the globe.. everywhere in the northern hemisphere can?
If the earth was flat… and Polaris is in the center.. northern parts of the Southern Hemisphere should see it.
Correct?
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:03 pm to Liberator
I'm willing to say, "I don't know." This to me is the only way information can truly be processed. If you act as if you know the unknowable, then that's theology, not science.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:03 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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You mean map the Earth with the predisposition that the Earth is a ball?
No. What I'm telling you is that 2D measurements don't work on a 3D surface. When you're doing large surveys, you must account for this or your measurements will be off and it is visible on the ground.
For fricks sake, the Egyptians knew the Earth was round like 3,000 fricking years ago. And they figured it out using trigonometry as well.
3,000 years have passed and we are working ourselves backwards. Devolving, as it were.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:06 pm to BoarEd
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For fricks sake, the Egyptians knew the Earth was round like 3,000 fricking years ago
Nobody is arguing that the fricking Earth isn't fricking round. A fricking quarter is fricking round, right? But it isn't a fricking ball. It isn't fricking devolution. You aren't fricking comprehending the fricking concept if you think the fricking FE model doesn't present a round fricking Earth.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:07 pm to Liberator
Even our resident YEC think you’re a loon 
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:07 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Nobody is arguing that the Earth isn't round
Round as in spherical. How would they use trigonometry to determine that the world is a round disc? This makes no sense.
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But it isn't a ball.
Yes it is. And if you cannot grasp how trig could be used to determine a spherical Earth, this subject matter is above your pay grade.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:09 pm to BoarEd
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Round as in spherical.
See... the Earth isn't spherical either in the ball Earth model. It's pear shaped. Fatter at the bottom than at the top.
Does your trig account for that??
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Even our resident YEC think you’re a loon
Who is that?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:10 pm to BoarEd
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this subject matter is above your pay grade.
Says the guy that can't explain his own concept.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:11 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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See... the Earth isn't spherical either in the ball Earth model. It's pear shaped. Fatter at the bottom than at the top.
There is no "bottom" of a sphere. It's as I suspected. This is above your pay grade.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:11 pm to CleverUserName
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Polaris is not on the flat earth. It is above the center of the flat earth map. It is not on the flat plane. It’s above it.
What is obstructing the view… if it’s above the flat plane??? In the center of said flat plane?
Site lines. Sheer distance.
Eventually even mountains and the Empire State Building fall beyond our site line due to distance-perspectives.
And FWIW, the distance to the Sun is calculated/triangulated at about 3000 miles.
Crepuscular Rays from the sun -- when followed to a common point -- prove LOCAL SUN. (don't believe me -- research it)
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:12 pm to Liberator
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You are unable to even comprehend the point; LIKE YOU, 0bama, Kerry etal believe "Flat Earth" is "cult" like, kooky, and absurd.
Why then are then mentioning it so much? Why had g00gle deemed it "Dangerous"? Why is any discussion verboten?
And then THE Big Question:
WHY do you believe your govt is telling you the Truth via NASA and Antarctica, -- but lying about EVERYTHING ELSE?
According to True Believers like you, ONLY NASA and "The Science" tell the truth. (While all OTHER dept of Gummint are liars. How's that possible?? SAME TEAM. SAME AGENDA.
The mind conditioning and mentally imprinting is etched in stone for millions just like you.
This Round-Spinning Ball Earth indoctrination and propaganda has been successful beyond the gummint's wildest dreams.
Funny how the number of question marks used in an argument is always a reliable indication of just how batshit insane the argument is.
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