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re: Why are "they" so obsessed with mentions of 'FLAT EARTH'? Just a silly "CT", right?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:40 pm to CleverUserName
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:40 pm to CleverUserName
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There is no line of sight limitations on a flat plane. Do you agree??
No. I don't agree. Vehemently disagree actually.
There are water particles, dust particles, all kinds of things that disrupt your sight. Even on a flat plane.
You seem to be suggesting that since there's no obstruction of a pen top at 2 inches distance that there should be no reason the human eye can't see thousands of miles. This is borderline retarded.
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:40 pm to BoarEd
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all "conspiracy theorists" look like fools
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:40 pm to guedeaux
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So you believe the government when you think it fits your narrative but not when you think that it does not?
Like I said. They come at you with minimal requirements of proof… but you must overcome some gigantic obstacle of proof.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:41 pm to BoarEd
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I said we engineered a water line. Was the route level? No, it ran through the mountains
The EARTH ITSELF is Level. The topography is what a surveyor deals with. Apples, Oranges.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:43 pm to Jake88
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all "conspiracy theorists" look like fools
EXCEPT apparently when it comes to Elections, the "Pandemic", a "Constitution", "Justice", the Rainbow Agenda, J6 (want me to go on about "CTs"??)
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:44 pm to CleverUserName
We’ve tried everything with these loons and most of the time they just obfuscate or ignore.
I always try to get them to do so simple experiments. For instance:
They can presumably see the North Star from their house. Go anywhere in the alleged Northern Hemisphere and they will see it.
Now go to a city on or near the alleged equator like Nairobi. You will see it.
Now go to Johannesburg on the same Continent. You won’t see it.
If the Earth is flat you would see it anywhere.
Ok, how about taking a flight from Australia to either California or South Africa? Shouldn’t the flight to California take a much longer time in a flat earth model? Like at least double? They are about the same.
I always try to get them to do so simple experiments. For instance:
They can presumably see the North Star from their house. Go anywhere in the alleged Northern Hemisphere and they will see it.
Now go to a city on or near the alleged equator like Nairobi. You will see it.
Now go to Johannesburg on the same Continent. You won’t see it.
If the Earth is flat you would see it anywhere.
Ok, how about taking a flight from Australia to either California or South Africa? Shouldn’t the flight to California take a much longer time in a flat earth model? Like at least double? They are about the same.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:44 pm to BoarEd
IS WATER LEVEL??
If you were "surveying" a lake, would you "account for curvature"?
Yes or No?
If you were "surveying" a lake, would you "account for curvature"?
Yes or No?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:45 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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No. I don't agree. Vehemently disagree actually. There are water particles, dust particles, all kinds of things that disrupt your sight. Even on a flat plane. You seem to be suggesting that since there's no obstruction of a pen top at 2 inches distance that there should be no reason the human eye can't see thousands of miles. This is borderline retarded.
Sigh.
Go to the top of the Empire State Building. Get the best telescope commercially available. You should have nothing in your way between there and Europe right?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:48 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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No. I don't agree. Vehemently disagree actually. There are water particles, dust particles, all kinds of things that disrupt your sight. Even on a flat plane.
So it’s dust and water particles is why you can see Polaris, that is well above the North Pole, in the northern tip of the small South American country of Equador… but not the center? Dust?
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:49 pm to Fun Bunch
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Sigh.
Go to the top of the Empire State Building. Get the best telescope commercially available. You should have nothing in your way between there and Europe right?
fricking NOOOOOOOO.
Why can't you grasp that the air isn't clear of obstructive things like dust and moisture? Especially looking over an ocean. A telescope doesn't filter out things in the atmosphere.
And yes. The atmosphere is THICK. It is obstructive at great distances.
For fricks sake man.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:53 pm to Fun Bunch
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If the Earth is flat you would see it anywhere.
BUZZZZZ...NO. Make up you mind what you can or can't see due to perspective + distance and limitations of sight-lines. Polaris -- even though it is in the sky is OUT OF SIGHT RANGE from the earth.
IF you believe in a "ball earth" and stars that are gazillions of miles away, NONE of this or FE will matter or make any sense to you (not that you're capable, given that thinking outside that tiny Cracker Jacks box of yours is impossible.
) Polaris (immovable and directly above the North Pole) is NOT "millions of Light Years away"; it is local, located WITHIN THE SKY DOME/FIRMAMENT of a FE extended plane.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:54 pm to Liberator
Come on Ed (or anybody else.)
IS WATER LEVEL??
If you were "surveying" a lake, would you "account for curvature"?
Yes or No?
IS WATER LEVEL??
If you were "surveying" a lake, would you "account for curvature"?
Yes or No?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:55 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Why can't you grasp that the air isn't clear of obstructive things like dust and moisture?
So with your dust and moisture… Polaris should be much much brighter in Canada than.. say.. Florida. Correct?
Moisture and dust, distance… blah blah.
It should happen in your scenario. Correct?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:56 pm to Liberator
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Polaris (immovable and directly above the North Pole) is NOT "millions of Light Years away"; it is local, located WITHIN THE SKY DOME/FIRMAMENT of a FE extended plane.
How high do you actually think it is. Just for shits and giggles.
And again…. It should be MUUUCH brighter in Canada than it is in Florida.. right?? According to you?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:57 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Fascinating. Can you do it for us here?
There are a few ways available, but I could probably do it from optics equations about humans see.
I can also try and explain it in retard terms. But the fundamental basis of all this is relative agreement on values, which I don't think we'll agree on, considering your solipsistic approach.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:58 pm to CleverUserName
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So it’s dust and water particles is why you can see Polaris, that is well above the North Pole, in the northern tip of the small South American country of Equador… but not the center? Dust?
Next time you're at the beach, take a clear glass and draw some water from the ocean into it. You'll be able to see through the water and the glass.
Then why can't you see the bottom of the ocean if the water appears clear at the surface?
Because water dissipates light. There is shite floating around in the water that you can't see with the naked eye that aggregates at distance obstructing your view.
There's water in the atmosphere. Light is dissipated through that water and other things in the atmosphere. This is what causes limited sight. Idk what else to say or how else to explain this concept.
frick, I'm not even a flat earther, per se, but damn you're thick-headed.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:59 pm to crazy4lsu
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solipsistic
Word of the day toilet paper??
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:59 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Why can't you grasp that the air isn't clear of obstructive things like dust and moisture?
What are the limits of this? Be specific.
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Especially looking over an ocean. A telescope doesn't filter out things in the atmosphere.
What is the mathematical basis of human sight? Or rather, what is the principle that connects a telescope and human vision?
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:00 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Word of the day toilet paper??
It is the most accurate word for the fallacious mode of reasoning you are using, which relies on the infallibility of the senses rather than agreed-upon reproducible values.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 1:02 pm to Liberator
quote:Why? If one is equidistant in the northern hemisphere from a spot in the southern hemisphere both should be able to see Polaris over the arctic in the center of the flat earth model.
This has been explained repeatedly. Due to Perspective + Distance limitations, yes even Polaris winds up OUT OF SIGHT of southern locations
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