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re: Why are “Hitler” and “Nazi” comparisons off limits?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:15 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:15 am to theunknownknight
Because liberals watered it down and minimized the holocaust by calling everyone they disagreed with a nazi or Hitler.
Now that we see legit fascism from the collusion of corporations and government to silence and punish political enemies. Comparing them to Hitler and nazis seems too soft.
Now that we see legit fascism from the collusion of corporations and government to silence and punish political enemies. Comparing them to Hitler and nazis seems too soft.
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:16 am to Bristol Dawg
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should carry out terror attacks.
It's not like they held several US cities hostage this summer like the Dems did
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:17 am to TrueTiger
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Stalin, Mao, and the Jacobins are all available.
Yep, and if you insist on sticking with early 20th century-Germany, you can use the Weimar regime. It even had its own transgender push. Look up Magnus Hirschfeld.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:17 am to Bristol Dawg
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Bristol Dawg
Keep goose-stepping.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:18 am to Bristol Dawg
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Trump has a subset of his followers believing in conspiracies, that they are 'patriots' and that they should carry out terror attacks. I'd say it's pretty close and Hitler and Nazi comparison's are quite relevant. Luckily, we still have an overwhelming majority who are able to critically reason and have not fallen victim.
Someone missed the short bus today. Wow, just wow
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:23 am to NashvilleTider
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I’m reading a book that interviewed people that have lived through totalitarian government transition and they say it’s Identical to what we’re seeing in America over the last 10 years
What's the title?
The Gulag Archipelago is fascinating, but I admit I have never read all 9,000 pages.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:23 am to Bristol Dawg
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Trump has a subset of his followers believing in conspiracies
This is happening on both sides. Both sides extreme fringe radicals are being catered too. And we need to stop it.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:23 am to BugAC
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Let's see, one side presents history of the rise of the Nazi regime and the steps they made to seize power and silence dissent, and make that comparison.
The other screams, "Orange man Bad, Trump's a nazi" without zero comparisons to the nazi regime and Trump. The only similarities between the rise of the Nazi's and the Trump presidency was the rise in Nationalism in America. Other than that, there are no shared scenarios between the 2.
Please, by all means, pick an example from 1920s/30s Germany and Hitler's rise to power, and compare them to Trump and we can discuss.
Oh, I believe you've got it spinned to fit your agenda of calling them Nazi's and Marxists. I've always wondered where that came from. In fact, you're equating the attempt to quell violence incitement and domestic terror attacks to the Nazi's 'suppressing the voices and the rights of the jews'. I get it. Nope, totally different and there's no comparison there. Not even close.
I haven't been spinning it around and made the comparison of a leader who successfully convinces an entire country to commit some of the most atrocious and heinous crimes against humanity the world has ever seen. It's the 'successfully convinces' that is the relevant comparison. There are enough people who can critically reason, so we will avoid the latter.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:24 am to SOKAL
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The Gulag Archipelago is fascinating, but I admit I have never read all 9,000 pages.
Have to get the abridged version, and yes it is fascinating. Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:24 am to theunknownknight
I just Think it’s a bit much. There are comparisons on both sides.
Liberals (through private action mind you) are shutting out conservative speech. However, you can argue conservative speech in a lot of places has gone beyond civil discourse. This website has 3-4 threads a day about Martial Law and before 1/6/2021 was constantly calling for/predicting revolutions
On the other side, you have a nationalist movement, convinced to give more and more power to one person. And I think The 2020 Wlections and the “Stop the Steal” has a very serious “Burning of the Riechstag” vibe to it.
What I think Is missing from both is anything like the Neuremberg Codes. No government action to lock anyone out of business or closing civil servant positions. On the whole it’s a lot tamer, and seems to be fizzling out.
Liberals (through private action mind you) are shutting out conservative speech. However, you can argue conservative speech in a lot of places has gone beyond civil discourse. This website has 3-4 threads a day about Martial Law and before 1/6/2021 was constantly calling for/predicting revolutions
On the other side, you have a nationalist movement, convinced to give more and more power to one person. And I think The 2020 Wlections and the “Stop the Steal” has a very serious “Burning of the Riechstag” vibe to it.
What I think Is missing from both is anything like the Neuremberg Codes. No government action to lock anyone out of business or closing civil servant positions. On the whole it’s a lot tamer, and seems to be fizzling out.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:25 am to TrueTiger
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I'm totally on board with quelling terror as long as I get to define it.
Touche, everyone thinks they're a patriot
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:25 am to Bristol Dawg
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. In fact, you're equating the attempt to quell violence incitement and domestic terror attacks to the Nazi's 'suppressing the voices and the rights of the jews'. I get it. Nope, totally different and there's no comparison there. Not even close.
Again, frick you
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:26 am to theunknownknight
Probably they are off-limits because so few people were taught what really went on. You see so many people comparing the current president to Hitler, without an ounce of comprehension of just how absurd such a claim is.They are doing it simply to vilify him and his supporters because all they know is that Hitler was bad. But conversely, these are the same people who think Fidel Castro was a savior.
Today’s left are not Democrats. They are the national socialist democratic party.
Today’s left are not Democrats. They are the national socialist democratic party.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:28 am to theunknownknight
For the most part it's because they are lazy labels. Neither side is Nazis. Both have crazy groups doing Nazi things though, like antifa's misnaming when they are effectively attempting to silence disagreement through violence.
Or magats storming the Capital in an attempt to disrupt normal business of our government.
The reason the capital storming is viewed with more disdain than burning down city blocks and thugging it up is localized vs an actual national event. Because one side lost an election and is still crying about it while feeding a false narrative.
Or magats storming the Capital in an attempt to disrupt normal business of our government.
The reason the capital storming is viewed with more disdain than burning down city blocks and thugging it up is localized vs an actual national event. Because one side lost an election and is still crying about it while feeding a false narrative.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:28 am to SammyTiger
You can tell that too many people are taught a very watered down version of the Nazis and how hitler came to power. This crap Nancy is pulling right now is eerily familiar.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:28 am to AURaptor
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Today’s left or not Democrats. They are the national socialist democratic party.
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so few people were taught what really went on.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:31 am to Bristol Dawg
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you're equating the attempt to quell violence incitement and domestic terror attacks to the Nazi's 'suppressing the voices and the rights of the jews'
Banning Parler and conservatives from social media is not quelling violence, incitement, or domestic terror attacks. If you think it is, then you are the problem.
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There are enough people who can critically reason, so we will avoid the latter.
And with your reason, there are parallels to Hitler's rise to power. Ignoring the genocide, the early steps of 1920's Germany, and the end of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazi's, especially the silencing of dissent, compared to the recent purging of dissenting views is apt. They are not identical, but there is similarities. You can not support the blockade of Parler, and still believe in free speech, unless you only believe in "correct speech". There are other bans that are comparable, but i'll stick with Parler for the time being, seeing as teh left keeps going with, "private company can do what it wants". Unless you are Parler.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:31 am to Bristol Dawg
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Trump has a subset of his followers believing in conspiracies, that they are 'patriots' and that they should carry out terror attacks. I'd say it's pretty close and Hitler and Nazi comparison's are quite relevant.
Luckily, we still have an overwhelming majority who are able to critically reason and have not fallen victim.
You sound like a delusional boomer cat lady watching the View ranting at poor Whiskers when all he wants is his Fancy Feast.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:50 am to bogeypro
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You can tell that too many people are taught a very watered down version of the Nazis and how hitler came to power. This crap Nancy is pulling right now is eerily familiar.
To what? What specific actions?
To me the most “Nazi” like behavior is coming from private businesses which is a whole other thing.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:09 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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It's not like they held several US cities hostage this summer like the Dems did
Trump's rhetoric fired up the apolitical fascist and racial groups, which effectively hand-cuffed him and you're still sticking with the democrats here huh?
I just can't understand how you can't recognize reality. The democrats condemned every bit of it and the current administration (because they stirred the pot and created it) was rendered powerless.
Progress will resume and this will get encapsulated again soon.
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