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Why are federal and gubernatorial elections not subject to a set of standardized rules?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:54 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:54 am
I've asked this question for 15-20 years, nothing changes and we're still dealing with the same old BS election after election. We have plenty of national laws and standards but voting is still left to a buncha political hacks at the state and local level. Broward Co FL in 2000 should have been the end of Dim voter fraud.
If Congress was doing it's job to preserve the integrity of our electoral process standardized election laws would have been law 20 years ago but for some reason there's a shite load of people who don't want things to change and for the life of me I can't figure it out, does anyone know why.
If Congress was doing it's job to preserve the integrity of our electoral process standardized election laws would have been law 20 years ago but for some reason there's a shite load of people who don't want things to change and for the life of me I can't figure it out, does anyone know why.
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:55 am to Bass Tiger
Welll the intent was for the states to handle these matters as they see fit.
Only it happens that some states have interpreted “as they see fit” to mean “cheat like a mother fricker.”
Only it happens that some states have interpreted “as they see fit” to mean “cheat like a mother fricker.”
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:56 am to Bass Tiger
quote:
I've asked this question for 15-20 years
And someone else asked it this morning
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:56 am to Bass Tiger
Because the Constitution says elections are left to the States?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:56 am to Bass Tiger
It's almost as if improved election processes would reduce fraud.
Can't have that, it would't be fair to Dems.
Can't have that, it would't be fair to Dems.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:56 am to Bass Tiger
quote:Because states' rights and stuff.
Why are federal and gubernatorial elections not subject to a set of standardized rules?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:59 am to Bass Tiger
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Why are federal and gubernatorial elections not subject to a set of standardized rules?
Because there actually is no such thing as federal elections in the US. They are ran by the states, not the feds. Really the only move Congress has is when it comes to Presidential elections, Congress could pass a law allowing them to refuse to certify the results of any state election that didn't mean certain standards.
Anything else would require a Constitutional Amendment. This is why Congress couldn't , for example, simply pass a law allowing blacks to vote, they HAD to pass a Constitutional Amendment because otherwise Congress didn't have jurisdiction to say tell Alabama that they must allow blacks to vote....... Etc etc.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:02 pm to LSURussian
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Because states' rights and stuff.
It's confusing, we have plenty of federa laws that supersede the powers of the state but something as important as elections with national repercussions are left to the state and county governments. If anything should be standardized it's the rules and voting methods of national and gubernatorial elections. If this were to happen it would mitigate a lot of the voting shenanigans we've been seeing the past 50-60 years.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:05 pm to Bass Tiger
Trump has broken the republican party... they are now clamoring for more government
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:10 pm to bmy
Because the national election would become as corrupt as it is in Fla. When that happens socialism would be upon us. Let the states figure it out. Some states out of 50 being corrupt is better than one massive corrupt vote counter for everybody
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:11 pm to bmy
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Trump has broken the republican party... they are now clamoring for more government
You are not very good at this.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:38 pm to Bass Tiger
Because of the tenth amendment
ETA: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”
Election management isn’t a responsibility given to fedgov in the Constitution. Therefore it’s up to individual states.
ETA: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”
Election management isn’t a responsibility given to fedgov in the Constitution. Therefore it’s up to individual states.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:44 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Because our government is a federal system, and elections belong to the States ... as they should.
Why are federal and gubernatorial elections not subject to a set of standardized rules?
"National standards." You sound like a lib.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:48 pm to bmy
Aaaaaaaaactually you are wrong again.
Some rights should belong to the States as long as they aren't abusing them.
In these instances, your Brownskirt brethren are trying to steal an election and while they SHOULD be hanged for their foul deeds, we would settle with setting up some sort of Federal oversight to make sure these pukes aren't violating the Civil Rights of decent, honest, hard-working voters (that is to say Conservatives).
Some rights should belong to the States as long as they aren't abusing them.
In these instances, your Brownskirt brethren are trying to steal an election and while they SHOULD be hanged for their foul deeds, we would settle with setting up some sort of Federal oversight to make sure these pukes aren't violating the Civil Rights of decent, honest, hard-working voters (that is to say Conservatives).
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:49 pm to AggieHank86
But these scumbag Brownskirts aren't holding up their end of the bargain by holding fair elections, therefore we may need some Federal oversight until these pukes get justice.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:53 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
We have plenty of national laws and standards but voting is still left to a buncha political hacks at the state and local level. Broward Co FL in 2000 should have been the end of Dim voter fraud.
The Constitution does not grant a right to vote.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:56 pm to oogabooga68
quote:So the States (and thus the People) get to keep rights only so long as the central government allows it.
Some rights should belong to the States as long as they aren't abusing them.
I missed that part of the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.
quote:Now, you will call me a "lib" and call yourself a Textualist, by some twisted logic that only Far Right lunatics will be able to understand. Reduced to its essentials, it will be "Worship of Orange Man."
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:26 pm to oogabooga68
quote:Whose alter are you? My guess would be either Mulder or Parmen.
But these scumbag Brownskirts aren't holding up their end of the bargain by holding fair elections, therefore we may need some Federal oversight until these pukes get justice.
But Mulder is brighter (even if autistic), so it must be Parmen.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:35 pm to Bass Tiger
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If Congress was doing it's job to preserve the integrity of our electoral process standardized election laws would have been law 20 years ago but for some reason there's a shite load of people who don't want things to change and for the life of me I can't figure it out, does anyone know why.
Decentralization of election administration is why a widespread hack of our electoral infrastructure is near impossible.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 5:17 pm to AggieHank86
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Because our government is a federal system, and elections belong to the States ... as they should. "National standards." You sound like a lib.
I’m a Prog/Dim leftists worst nightmare. The standards I’m asking for national elections has nothing to do with the Feds actually running the local precincts. Local election boards would still oversee the election but the voting standards would make sure Dims are not finding votes in car trunks 3 days after the election. It would also use common ballots and voting equipment to ensure the ballots and methods of counting votes is secure and free of Dim shenanigans.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 5:19 pm
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