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re: Why Are Democrats So Anti-American?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:54 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:54 pm to ShortyRob
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No.
Okay then how is it a red herring on my part?
You really don’t see how someone could view the relative silence on corporate welfare compared to the histrionics for any sort of program for the poor and not deduce that you’re not actually that concerned about your principles you’re only concerned with which winners and losers are being chosen?
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:54 pm to Lutcher Lad
It's not about America. It's about Democrats regaining power and they will say and do anything to get re-elected. It's not about making America better or great; it's about Democrats holding the steering wheel and deciding for us what they think we should do, say, and think.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:55 pm to DemonKA3268
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perception based off of an internet board?
No based on what we see an hear from conservative media
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:I said your "nailing down framework" is your argumentative red herring, not your discussion of corporate welfare.
Okay then how is it a red herring on my part?
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You really don’t see how someone could view the relative silence on corporate welfare compared to the histrionics for any sort of program for the poor
I already articulated for you in a prior post why the difference.
And, then, I believe it was TA who added with another solid point as to why this would be the case.
It's your choice if you wish to pretend we didn't already answer your question and instead assume we just hate poor people.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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No based on what we see an hear from conservative media
You're joking, right? You seriously going to stand by that statement?
Okay then...
Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:59 pm to ShortyRob
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and instead assume we just hate poor people.
I specifically said that wasn’t my opinion
What I asked was, can’t you understand how someone could look at how and when conservatives become enraged over federal spending and come to that conclusion. You haven’t answered that question.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:01 pm to Lutcher Lad
Hey think other countries (in Europe) are better...that’s the white ones. They don’t realize they’d still be jobless losers even if those calling them that said it in German or French
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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What I asked was, can’t you understand how someone could look at how and when conservatives become enraged over federal spending and come to that conclusion
No. Honestly, I can't understand it because it's fricking lazy.
Any person of even moderate intellect knows that ALL OF THE CORPORATE WELFARE EVER doesn't even equal our entitlement programs of the last 5 years.
So, if we oppose a NEW entitlement program and someone deduces that the fact we do so more forcefully than some new tax break means we hate poor people, they are being completely intellectually dishonest or simply lack the intellectual wherewithal to be taken seriously.
This honestly goes double when one recognizes that the left LOVES them some corporate welfare for all their protestations to the contrary. As much as any conservative can be claimed to.
In fact, while both would lose, I would say a Republican running in the primaries in Iowa against farm subsidies has a much better fricking chance than a Democrat does!
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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You really don’t see how someone could view the relative silence on corporate welfare compared to the histrionics for any sort of program for the poor and not deduce that you’re not actually that concerned about your principles you’re only concerned with which winners and losers are being chosen?
Dems love some corporate welfare..
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:07 pm to ShortyRob
Liberals want to fight corporatism by growing the government. So technically we are championing fighting oil subsidies by wanting to decentralize and limit the power the government, who provides the subsidy, by wanting to limit it's influence on the private sector.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:11 pm to wutangfinancial
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Liberals want to fight corporatism by growing the government. So technically we are championing fighting oil subsidies by wanting to decentralize and limit the power the government, who provides the subsidy, by wanting to limit it's influence on the private sector.
I've often said that the liberal view of corporate welfare is odd because they genuinely seem surprised that when you fill the trough till it's overflowing, pigs show up.
There are so many things that are 100% predictable that come from the nature and size of the government liberals want that they seem completely oblivious to the fact they are causing it.
It's why you can seriously hear a liberal tell you that he's tired of how politicians can be bought and then, in the VERY NEXT BREATH, propose to give that same politician tons of $$$$$ that will quite obviously attract people who wish to buy the politician.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:11 pm to ShortyRob
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No. Honestly, I can't understand it because it's fricking lazy.
Any person of even moderate intellect knows that ALL OF THE CORPORATE WELFARE EVER doesn't even equal our entitlement programs of the last 5 years.
I already brought up the Obama phones. This was trotted out by conservatives. What’s the cost of that program compared to federal corporate welfare in this country, yet we never hear a peep about that. Why is that?
Stop trying to make this just about dollar amount because we both know that’s not what it’s about.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:12 pm to Lutcher Lad
They are anti Western Civilization.
White men in the party will soon find out they're not welcome. It's already shifting that way.
White men in the party will soon find out they're not welcome. It's already shifting that way.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Are you seriously going to just ignore all I've posted focus in on this one area............and pretend that the conservative reaction to Obamaphones.........in the grand scheme of things..........was terribly large?
I already brought up the Obama phones. This was trotted out by conservatives. What’s the cost of that program compared to federal corporate welfare in this country, yet we never hear a peer about that. Why is that?
Dude. I'm givin ya the benefit of the doubt but if you're going to play this game, I can stop.
Oh, and the "Obamaphones" weren't expensive..........they were a vote buying scheme. A pretty transparent one at that.
I don't even think there are that many rank and file liberals who thought Obamaphones were some brilliant idea.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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what we see an hear from conservative media
Which is? I'm not really aware of conservative media outside of FoX.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:17 pm to Lutcher Lad
They aren’t necessarily anti-American although some are. They just don’t love their country as much as they love their political ideology. In their minds the country is worthless if they don’t have control of it politically. That’s why morals and beliefs on the left are so flexible. As long as it is a means to political power then they are ok with it.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:17 pm to ShortyRob
I have always called Obama the "Corporatist President." Liberals hate corporate welfare unless it's for companies and industry's they like. Also, just about all of their entitlements create the third party payer effect and increase the influence of money in politics, it's all so freaking ironic.
Green energy, healthcare and wall street are the best examples of what I'm talking about.
Green energy, healthcare and wall street are the best examples of what I'm talking about.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:17 pm to ShortyRob
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and pretend that the conservative reaction to Obamaphones.........in the grand scheme of things..........was terribly large?
It was a lot bigger than it’s ever been for corporate welfare
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Dude. I'm givin ya the benefit of the doubt
No, I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Because it was a transparent vote buying scheme and, even then, it didn't last very long as anything more than a glaring example of just how sleezy the left can be with vote buying schemes.
It was a lot bigger than it’s ever been for corporate welfare
quote:While ignoring 90% of what I write.
No, I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt
I take the time to give people full responses with basis of reasoning and everything included because 14 word Twitter type conversations are completely unproductive.
But, a great many of you seem to prefer unproductive.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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but when we talk about providing health care to our citizens all the sudden it’s a constitutional crisis.
Not only a constitutional crisis but would result in all of getting much less quality healthcare
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There’s no consistency and it leads some to believe, and I’m not saying this is true I’m just saying this is the perception, that conservatives don’t really care all that much about their constitutional principles they just hate poor people.
99% of people are driven by the media. There is basically zero coverage ethanol subsidies while there is a ton of coverage of expanded federal role in healthcare.
What you perceive as an inconsistency is probably more media driven focus on certain issues.
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