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re: Who has the most realistic chance to be the next Republican President?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:57 am to Navytiger74
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:57 am to Navytiger74
That seems like you're picking out a red herring because Romney still underperformed in the heaviest conservative areas which shouldn't have been the case under any circumstance
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:57 am to Last call
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Who has the most realistic chance to be the next Republican President?
Most realistic chance in 2016, Romney... He has tons of "I told you so moments", he is already a household name from 2012, and the key demographic (young and african american) that came out in droves for the last two elections will not be there for the next.
Having said that, Rand Paul is the best choice for the Republicans.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:57 am to Last call
Mitt Romney. He would garner the most mainstream appeal. The fact that he has been proven right over and over gives him more credibility than our current leader. I wish he would run in 2016.
I said I wouldn't be excited if he ran again a couple of weeks ago but I've changed my mind. I would be very excited to see Mitt run again.
I said I wouldn't be excited if he ran again a couple of weeks ago but I've changed my mind. I would be very excited to see Mitt run again.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:57 am to teke184
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Scott Walker
Doubtful. There are no real indications that the guy is even putting together the kind of organization needed to mount a serious bid. And I honestly think the fact that he doesn't have a college education will strike some voters as odd.
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Rick Perry
You must be joking.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 10:02 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:59 am to teke184
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Unless something major changes, Rick Perry or Scott Walker because both are very successful governors whose policies have produced big results in their states.
What are Walkers successes? He is so far from his 250k jobs promise that it is scary. His inability to hire good staff is frightening.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:01 am to Lsut81
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Most realistic chance in 2016, Romney
Barring the emergence of someone who's not really on most folks' radars, I think Romney is the obvious answer if he decides to run. His 2012 campaign organization wasn't the greatest and he still did reasonably well. Honestly, even if I didn't think he had strengths of his own, he's almost the "default" candidate unless Rand can really go hard.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:03 am to Navytiger74
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Barring the emergence of someone who's not really on most folks' radars, I think Romney is the obvious answer if he decides to run.
Yeah, I'm not saying he is the best choice, as I think Paul is currently.... But Romney has all of the foundation laid and if he brought Paul on as his VP, he'd pull a shite ton of independents and young people.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:03 am to LSURussian
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Romney. Buyer's remorse has set in.
If Romney runs he would be the establishment candidate and would keep Jeb out...
Rand and Cruz would likely be fighting for 2nd place if Romney runs.
I don't like the fact that Huckabee's name keeps popping up as a potential candidate but if Romney runs I don't think he will get much traction.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:08 am to Zephyrius
Reality, no one. The electoral college is too far gone now. The Democrats have 40% of the votes they need by winning three states (CA, IL and NY). Those are automatics. Throw in FL and OH, which are near automatic now, and you have statistically almost no chance of a GOP president.
I am of the mindset that the GOP WH ship has sailed.
I think the primary focus of the GOP should be holding the Senate and House, which is far easier and more likely as we sit here today.
I am of the mindset that the GOP WH ship has sailed.
I think the primary focus of the GOP should be holding the Senate and House, which is far easier and more likely as we sit here today.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:09 am to Navytiger74
quote:Technically the dialogue was correct. The morning after the election McCain had received more votes than Romney. It was not until all of the absentee ballots were counted that Romney actually beat McCains total. LINK
Well that dialogue was wrong.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:10 am to Last call
Romney. I would vote for him again. Any objective observer could see that Romney was infinitely more qualified to serve as President compared to Obama or Hillary for that matter.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:15 am to teke184
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The Republicans don't have that issue, as they arguably have the best candidate field in recent history to choose from.
If only the demographics of the electorate would allow them to flourish.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:16 am to Lsut81
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Most realistic chance in 2016, Romney...
As of 8/22/2014, I think you're right. Who knows what happens between now and 2016 though. Romney is pretty popular right now and I think (or hope) he could run a much better campaign the next time around. More people would be inclined to vote "for" him instead of simply against Obama. The battle against the image of being such an aloof fortunate son wouldn't be quite as daunting. Not to mention Republicans love to vote for the safe, Gold Watch candidate.
That said, I can easily see Rand Paul emerging from the field and giving Hillary a really tough time in the General. He has the ability to appeal to and energize multiple voting blocs than many GOP candidates can't.
That said, the Democrats in 2016 will be angling with the Civil Rights angle. I truly believe this and thought this before the Michael Brown incident. Its the only reason why Birmingham, AL is even being considered for the DNC. The Dems will play the War on Women, Marraige Equality, Immigration, and other social issues extremely hard in order to generate turnout. The GOP will have to have a candidate who can weather that BS and cut through it in order to deliver their message.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:30 am to dante
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Technically the dialogue was correct.
If the dialogue said anything other than "so far, Romney's vote talley trails McCains, but there are more ballots to be counted" it was wrong. The original post saying that "Obama was vulnerable, but Romney still received fewer votes than McCain" was wrong. Simple simple simple. There is nothing to debate here.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:32 am to BuckyBadger
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What are Walkers successes?
He changed collective bargaining in his state, despite massive fights from the left. The state and local budgets went from massive deficits to surpluses and the people got tax rebates as a result.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:33 am to Navytiger74
Great, here comes "independent" Navytiger to come crap on any suggestion in this thread 
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:35 am to Circle K Beggar
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Great, here comes "independent" Navytiger to come crap on any suggestion in this thread
Don't you have some windows to lick?
I'm not an independent, btw.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:35 am to LSURussian
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Romney. Buyer's remorse has set in.
Don't discount this. The disaster that is (and will continue to be) Obama's second term will be a big factor.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:37 am to Circle K Beggar
The thing I fear for Rand is he is trying to appeal to everyone, and when you do that, at some point your statements are going to contradict themselves.
You can't go to "moral majority" evangelicals and talk with them about the moral decay of society and then be pro-pot when speaking to college groups. That's a recipe for hypocrisy that the mainstream media outlets will pounce on with haste.
You can't go to "moral majority" evangelicals and talk with them about the moral decay of society and then be pro-pot when speaking to college groups. That's a recipe for hypocrisy that the mainstream media outlets will pounce on with haste.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:37 am to Navytiger74
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I'm not an independent, btw.
Oh, I know. The quotation marks went right over your head.
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