re: Who had never Trumper, Rick Santorum for idiot comment of the day?

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He's not wrong. The continental US was basically a blank slate,

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The whole world has been built on consumerism and land grabs.

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I find it pretty flipping hilarious that "woke intellectuals" act like the US was the first place an empire displaced indigenous people. Empire building precedes recorded history.

Some of these "smart baws" need to read a f'ing book.

Sad.

The native Americans were hunters and gatherers. Let's not put them up too high

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Pretty sure that's not exclusively owned by Indians.

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I made no such claim nor was it my intent to insinuate that such trade confederations were exclusive to indigenous Native American people.

The point here is that free trade and commerce has been the essence of civilized societies across human history.

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These savages did not have the wheel or written languages.



As an American of Creek ancestry, I find this to be a really ignorant statement

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Did they have the wheel and written language or not?

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Did they have the wheel and written language or not?

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No. Yet the point here is that it is not an either/or equation.

The lack of the wheel or written language did not make the Creek, Choctaw, Cherokee, Chickasaw or Seminole tribes “savages” either. By any objective examination of history, these tribes had achieved a significant degree of civilization long before the arrival of European man.

When did the American Indians migrate from?

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Good. They aren’t “native” to North America either. They walked here.
They sure as shite didn't ride on anything that required a wheel!

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Ha!

Who needs wheels when you can ride wooly mammoths!?





All kidding aside, the history of human migration is a history of displaced people.

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When did the American Indians migrate from?

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Wut?

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By your definition, which peoples in the past were savages? Your exclusion of peoples who established trade with others from the definition of savages would seem to rule out almost all.

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I was going to say that all humankind was savage at some point in prehistory but I understand your question now.

Yet here I am talking specifically about what came to be known as the 5 Civilized Tribes. Now, the Mississippian culture from which these tribes originated was without question a pre-industrial agricultural society that lacked the attendant technological advances that are necessitated by industrialization.

Yet to claim these indigenous Mississippian cultures were “savage” is an utterly false statement. Before Europeans had ever arrived in that region of North America, the people inhabiting what became the Southeastern United States had achieved a relatively advanced level of civilization.

This included the domestication of native plants such as maize and legumes, innovations in agriculture techniques that led to increased food production, increased population growth, the rise of vibrant town centers, a complex socio-political organization, elaborate religious rites, flourishing trade with distant tribes and cross cultural exchanges with people & cultures as far away as Mexico. Again, by any objective historical analysis, these people were not “savages.”