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re: Who had never Trumper, Rick Santorum for idiot comment of the day?
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:47 am to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:47 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:So we’re back at the start - Indians have had no significant contribution to modern America.
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I made no such claim nor was it my intent to insinuate that such trade confederations were exclusive to indigenous Native American people.
The point here is that free trade and commerce has been the essence of civilized societies across human history.
They were not smart, not innovative, hunted animals to extinction, and left no meaningful footprint relative to contemporary America.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:11 am to Pesci_Avocado
Considering half our state names are derived from native languages, I’d say they have some degree of influence.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:42 am to Abraham H Parnassis
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They were not smart, not innovative, hunted animals to extinction, and left no meaningful footprint relative to contemporary America.
First off, to make a blanket statement about the multitudes of cultures and peoples that inhabited North America before the arrival of Europeans is impossible since these indigenous cultures were not monolithic. And again, the primary argument here is that these cultures were not all “savages.”
As it pertains to the Mississippian Indian culture, the ability of these societies to produce sustained trade has long been a hallmark of advanced cultures. Such cultures have advanced beyond simple hunter-gathering and sustenance agriculture.
Sustained commerce indicates an ability of a culture to not only produce excess goods but to develop a systematic society that has the ability to store, transport and trade that excess production for some form of material profit. Such cultures require a relatively high degree of complex social structures and settlement hierarchies that are the hallmarks of civilization across cultures.
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:26 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:They didn't make use of the wheel, bro.
First off, to make a blanket statement about the multitudes of cultures and peoples that inhabited North America before the arrival of Europeans is impossible since these indigenous cultures were not monolithic. And again, the primary argument here is that these cultures were not all “savages.”
As it pertains to the Mississippian Indian culture, the ability of these societies to produce sustained trade has long been a hallmark of advanced cultures. Such cultures have advanced beyond simple hunter-gathering and sustenance agriculture.
Sustained commerce indicates an ability of a culture to not only produce excess goods but to develop a systematic society that has the ability to store, transport and trade that excess production for some form of material profit. Such cultures require a relatively high degree of complex social structures and settlement hierarchies that are the hallmarks of civilization across cultures.
They stacked a bunch of dirt, swapped pelts and hunted animals into extinction while people were building pyramids, discovering complex mathematics and establishing ideas of philosophy, democracy and theology that are drawn from TODAY.
But yeah, they mixed maize with lime and ate peyote. Where would we be without those significant contributions?
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:27 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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They stacked a bunch of dirt, swapped pelts and hunted animals into extinction while people were building pyramids, discovering complex mathematics and establishing ideas of philosophy, democracy and theology that are drawn from TODAY.
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