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re: White House preparing for major narrative shift: sudden deaths = Long COVID, not the vaxx.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:00 am to Powerman
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:00 am to Powerman
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Is it really important that we have some well defined clinical definition?
Yes. So you can treat the disease.
Otherwise you can just call it general malaise.
But in terms of politics the term long covid will be used as if it is a real thing. You can't tell people they do or don't have it. You can just claim it because you have some symptoms three months after you recovered from COVID. For all we know those symptoms could have nothing to do with COVID post recovery and could be something as allergies or getting old.
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:04 am to Powerman
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"We found that across this large dataset, the entire COVID-19-vaccinated population of England during an important 12-month period of the pandemic when the COVID-19 vaccines first became available, the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was quite small compared to the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection,"
Wish they would have included the unvaccinated population in this study.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:04 am to GumboPot
Deflect Deflect Deflect
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:05 am to GumboPot
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Yes. So you can treat the disease.
Otherwise you can just call it general malaise.
Maybe we don't have an effective treatment for it
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But in terms of politics the term long covid will be used as if it is a real thing.
Because it is a real thing
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. You can just claim it because you have some symptoms three months after you recovered from COVID.
If you're still having symptoms 3 months after recovering from COVID wouldn't that mean that long COVID is a real thing?
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For all we know those symptoms could have nothing to do with COVID post recovery and could be something as allergies or getting old.
I have a colleague that lost his sense of taste and smell when he first had COVID. 8 months later his senses haven't fully returned. Must just be a coincidence right?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:07 am to GumboPot
So there IS an epidemic?
And it's not climate change, an invasion, or Coronary Covid?
And it's not climate change, an invasion, or Coronary Covid?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:08 am to Powerman
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I have a colleague that lost his sense of taste and smell when he first had COVID. 8 months later his senses haven't fully returned. Must just be a coincidence right?
Asking for a friend?
Maybe you should stop the cleanup duty after the cornhole games.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:09 am to LSUbest
I don't play cornhole
Seems stupid to me
Seems stupid to me
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:11 am to LSUAngelHere1
quote:You also said that only 2 sudden deaths ever posted turned out to be NOT from the vax, so you lost credibility long ago with anything you've said.
I said from day one that “long covid” was the vax effects.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:13 am to Houag80
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Power bottom is damn near the dumbest poster on this board...
The town of Chalmette would like a word....
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:17 am to Powerman
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I have a colleague that lost his sense of taste and smell when he first had COVID. 8 months later his senses haven't fully returned. Must just be a coincidence right?
Loss of taste and smell is a pretty well documented symptom of COVID, not Long COVID. (There are many other viruses that cause the loss of taste and smell but we don't say we have Long Influenza.)
If Long COVID is a thing, where does COVID end and Long COVID begin?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:19 am to GumboPot
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Loss of taste and smell is a pretty well documented symptom of COVID, not Long COVID. (There are many other viruses that cause the loss of taste and smell but we don't say we have Long Influenza.)
If Long COVID is a thing, where does COVID end and Long COVID begin?
Why don't you take an educated guess
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:20 am to Houag80
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Power bottom is damn near the dumbest poster on this board...and that's saying a lot considering he is competing with the likes of Tsoy,lakesoy, cuckmill, cuck Celtic, Tigerdoc, pernod, etc.
Considering you have a childish nickname for everyone that disagrees with you I have a tough time taking your insult personally
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:21 am to Powerman
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Why don't you take an educated guess
I shouldn't have to guess, educated or otherwise.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:22 am to GumboPot
That theory is not based in reality. Naturally, all the vaccinated progstains lap that shite up.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:24 am to GumboPot
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I shouldn't have to guess, educated or otherwise.
Oddly you have no problem guessing when you presume with 0 evidence that all of these issues are vaccine related
Funny how that works right?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:24 am to Powerman
Ok progstain.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:17 am to moneyg
quote:I don't know, are they?
So, these sudden deaths that presumably are now being acknowledged are happening disproportionately in the unvaccinated?
People can't stop talking about sudden deaths, but I'v yet to see any data that shows it's only the vax suffering this fate, is there data out there that shows the unvaxxed aren't dropping too?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:27 am to shel311
That's really how this starts to get sorted out - compare outcomes in the two groups. Ideally, you'd like to be able to compare people who haven't been exposed to either, but that's more and more difficult three years into the pandemic.
Of course, it gets more complicated than comparing outcomes because no one can go out and obtain this information themselves - we typically defer to experts (or better expert consensus) to interpret them or else trust ourselves to interpret research ourselves, which isn't advisable for the average person, so you end up with disagreement over facts because people trust different experts or use different standards of evidence to draw conclusions.
Of course, it gets more complicated than comparing outcomes because no one can go out and obtain this information themselves - we typically defer to experts (or better expert consensus) to interpret them or else trust ourselves to interpret research ourselves, which isn't advisable for the average person, so you end up with disagreement over facts because people trust different experts or use different standards of evidence to draw conclusions.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:40 am to Powerman
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Oddly you have no problem guessing when you presume with 0 evidence that all of these issues are vaccine related
Funny how that works right?
Again you are misunderstanding this thread. It is not me or you with the presumption "that all these issues are vaccine related".
The thread is about the narrative of sudden deaths and its link to the covid-19 vaccine (based on polling and anecdotal stories/evidence) whether correct or not.
To break the growing narrative the link between sudden deaths and the covid-19 vaccine will be broken or attempted be broken with "long covid" and/or "climate change".
What is interesting is that there is no denial that there is an increase in "sudden deaths".
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:40 am to TigerDoc
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we typically defer to experts (or better expert consensus)
That's why it's important for institutions that have credibility not to flush it down the toilet. It's a tough thing to regain once lost. Once trusted institutions now rate slightly above used car salesmen, and that probably won't change in my lifetime. The FBI is political and everybody knows it, the media is political and everybody knows it, the AMA is political and everybody knows it. You can cluck your tongue at the serfs for trying to interpret information themselves, but the "experts" left them little choice.
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