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re: White House preparing for major narrative shift: sudden deaths = Long COVID, not the vaxx.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:31 am to chalmetteowl
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:31 am to chalmetteowl
Burials are up 30%
Chalmette said and I quote:
Chalmette said and I quote:
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Can be explained by people deciding to have actual funerals which they couldn’t during the pandemic
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 8:36 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:31 am to GumboPot
So I've had COVID for a year then all of a sudden I drop dead even though I feel fine. Makes perfect sense.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:32 am to Penrod
Just an FYI, here is what is published on the AMA's website about Long COVID:
LINK
In other words, you can't go into your doctors office, get a test and the results of the test say you are positive (or negative) for Long Covid. Right now Long Covid is just a term for people that feel bad after they had COVID. Never mind the fact that they could have felt just as bad before covid or covid exacerbated their already worsening metabolic syndrome condition. Right now, with no clinical definition, you can lump all kinds of symptoms into the amorphous term "long covid", even "sudden death". Politicians love when science or medicine provides them with terms that cannot be defined.
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Most people recover from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, within a couple of weeks, but others may experience new or lingering symptoms, even after recuperating from COVID-19. Although, there is no universal clinical case definition for these lingering symptoms the CDC labels long COVID, also known as post-COVID conditions, as a wide range of new, returning or ongoing health problems people can experience four or more weeks after first being infected with SARS-CoV-2
LINK
In other words, you can't go into your doctors office, get a test and the results of the test say you are positive (or negative) for Long Covid. Right now Long Covid is just a term for people that feel bad after they had COVID. Never mind the fact that they could have felt just as bad before covid or covid exacerbated their already worsening metabolic syndrome condition. Right now, with no clinical definition, you can lump all kinds of symptoms into the amorphous term "long covid", even "sudden death". Politicians love when science or medicine provides them with terms that cannot be defined.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:34 am to GumboPot
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ight now, with no clinical definition, you can lump all kinds of symptoms into the amorphous term "long covid", even "sudden death". Politicians love when science or medicine provides them with terms that cannot be defined.
You literally just linked to a definition
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:35 am to Powerman
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How is this a "narrative shift" of any sort?
The polling says: ‘Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines
The WH needs to shift "died suddenly" from covid 19 vaccines to Long Covid (or climate change).
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:35 am to Powerman
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COVID infectoin poses higher risk of myocarditis than vaccines
I would not trust anything out of England's medical establishment.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:35 am to The Levee
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For delta yes
Their own documents say otherwise.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:37 am to GumboPot
Long Covid = Fibromyalgia part II.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:38 am to Powerman
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The explanation is pretty simple and the definition is almost implied. It's people who suffer long term effects after COVID infection. While rare it is in fact real and you're a moron if you think it isn't.
What clinical test can you give someone to determine if they have long covid or not?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:40 am to BengalOnTheBay
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I would not trust anything out of England's medical establishment.
The study was done by the American Heart Association
I'm sure you don't trust them either
And there in lies the problem. No matter who makes this claim or what study is produced you'll find a way to not trust it. And it's fine to be skeptical. But if you shoot down literally every study that goes against what you want to believe are you really being honest with yourself?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:40 am to Powerman
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You literally just linked to a definition
He linked to an explanation on the AMA's website that there is no definition.
"Although, there is no universal clinical case definition"
I'm starting to think you are either an insane vax zealot, really dumb, or some extremely dangerous combination of both.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:43 am to Powerman
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You literally just linked to a definition
Read it again and pay close attention to these words, " there is no universal clinical case definition".
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:43 am to Powerman
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The study was done by the American Heart Association
Holy fricking shite dude, you literally can't even read.
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The overall risk of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – is substantially higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than it is in the weeks following vaccination for the coronavirus, a large new study in England shows.
The detailed analysis of nearly 43 million people was published Monday in the American Heart Association journal Circulation.
"We found that across this large dataset, the entire COVID-19-vaccinated population of England during an important 12-month period of the pandemic when the COVID-19 vaccines first became available, the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was quite small compared to the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection," the study's lead author, Martina Patone, said in a news release. She is a statistician at the University of Oxford Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences in England.
PUBLISHING in an American journal has no bearing on where the study was held or who actually performed the study.
Again, the "statistical analysis" (which can be bullshite in and of itself even when no malice is intended) was performed in England by English researchers.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:44 am to BengalOnTheBay
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Holy fricking shite dude, you literally can't even read.
Sorry was skimming over it and didn't read closely enough
Calm your tits
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:44 am to themunch
Which vax is killing the most people?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:50 am to BengalOnTheBay
Is it really important that we have some well defined clinical definition?
We know the phenomena exists
We know the phenomena exists
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:50 am to chalmetteowl
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Can be explained by people deciding to have actual funerals which they couldn’t during the pandemic
They still had to be buried back then you retard
It’s not like we had millions of corpses lying around for two years waiting on the laws to change and allow public funerals
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:54 am to Open Your Eyes
Power bottom is damn near the dumbest poster on this board...and that's saying a lot considering he is competing with the likes of Tsoy,lakesoy, cuckmill, cuck Celtic, Tigerdoc, pernod, etc.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:55 am to Powerman
Anyway, this is a thread on narrative politics. Posting all the scientific studies proving one way or the other is not the point.
The point is this:
1. Polling (and a lot of anecdotal evidence including on this website, other social media websites, financial industry, etc.) suggest a link between "died suddenly" with the covid-19 vaccine.
2. The link between died suddenly and covid-19 vaccine (as a public perception, whether real or not) is potentially detrimental to political careers and industry that have advocated for and are financially and emotionally invested in the covid-19 vaccine.
3. The link between died suddenly and covid-19 vaccine must be broken to preserve and protect the covid-19 vaccine reputation by attaching "died suddenly" to long covid or climate change; two terms that politicians can use because they have plastic definitions.
This is a PR battle.
The point is this:
1. Polling (and a lot of anecdotal evidence including on this website, other social media websites, financial industry, etc.) suggest a link between "died suddenly" with the covid-19 vaccine.
2. The link between died suddenly and covid-19 vaccine (as a public perception, whether real or not) is potentially detrimental to political careers and industry that have advocated for and are financially and emotionally invested in the covid-19 vaccine.
3. The link between died suddenly and covid-19 vaccine must be broken to preserve and protect the covid-19 vaccine reputation by attaching "died suddenly" to long covid or climate change; two terms that politicians can use because they have plastic definitions.
This is a PR battle.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:59 am to Powerman
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The study was done by the American Heart Association
I'm sure you don't trust them either
They're bought and paid for by huge corporate interests, and no doubt take money from pharma (LINK They're one of many organizations that claimed that sugars and grains don't make you fat, it's eggs and steak. They're the ones that put "heart healthy" labels on bullshite food.
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