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Where do you draw the lines on regulation? MAHA related
Posted on 7/6/26 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 4:48 pm
I know more generally speaking most conservatives favor a low regulatory environment. I do believe however that the one area where conservatives might actually want more regulation is with our food. There are thousands of food additives that are permissible in our food supply that are banned by almost all first world nations. HHS is targeting some food dyes to have them removed from the food supply and perhaps more importantly they're challenging the GRAS (Generally regarded as safe) self certification practices. If you're unaware food companies can add something to a food product and have their own "scientists" declare it generally regarded as safe and it goes on the shelf of your grocery store with no real oversight.
I think regulating our food supply is something that probably has bipartisan support.
It's also a good example of why "let the market figure it out" isn't the best answer for everything.
I think regulating our food supply is something that probably has bipartisan support.
It's also a good example of why "let the market figure it out" isn't the best answer for everything.
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 5:06 pm to Powerman
Bump
Another topic where I think "most people" think we need more regulation and oversight is AI development. AI that runs out of our control could be catastrophic for a number of different reasons. I don't think the "alignment problem" can really be solved.
Another topic where I think "most people" think we need more regulation and oversight is AI development. AI that runs out of our control could be catastrophic for a number of different reasons. I don't think the "alignment problem" can really be solved.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 5:27 pm to Powerman
Regulating companies from using chemicals that won’t kill us or give us cancer is a good thing.
If we had serious adults running DC that would weigh the cost and benefits of regulations we’d be fine. But we don’t.
This is why we have asinine restrictions on electricity supply, no new gas refineries since the 60’s and Toyota having to do away with some of the best drive trains ever produced.
In fact, I’d say 50% of the regulations that frick stuff up are environmentally driven to force an agenda. 40% are driven to create an advantage for some donor or lobbiest and 10% are actually for the greater good.
If we had serious adults running DC that would weigh the cost and benefits of regulations we’d be fine. But we don’t.
This is why we have asinine restrictions on electricity supply, no new gas refineries since the 60’s and Toyota having to do away with some of the best drive trains ever produced.
In fact, I’d say 50% of the regulations that frick stuff up are environmentally driven to force an agenda. 40% are driven to create an advantage for some donor or lobbiest and 10% are actually for the greater good.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 5:28 pm to Powerman
The problem is corporate capture.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:00 pm to SquatchDawg
You do bring up a good point. There are at least some regulations that are there to close the door on up and coming competitors. They're there because the corporations want them to be there in at least some cases.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:03 pm to Powerman
Regulation is important in all areas where customers cannot make informed decisions with any reasonable certainty. Food safety and drug purity is one of the most obviously necessary regulatory areas.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 6:05 pm to Powerman
Government getting involved in "health" is a big reason Americans are so fat and unhealthy now. People have been conditioned, by government, to believe that shoving carbs down your neck all day long and keeping your insulin levels jacked through the roof is the "healthy" thing to do.
I am a fan of RFK Jr, but the problem is people trusting government to tell them what's "good" for them in the first place. Not the role of government to be telling people what they should and shouldn't be eating.
It's just more nanny state bullshite that is ubiquitous in society.
I am a fan of RFK Jr, but the problem is people trusting government to tell them what's "good" for them in the first place. Not the role of government to be telling people what they should and shouldn't be eating.
It's just more nanny state bullshite that is ubiquitous in society.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:08 pm to stuntman
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Government getting involved in "health" is a big reason Americans are so fat and unhealthy now. People have been conditioned, by government, to believe that shoving carbs down your neck all day long and keeping your insulin levels jacked through the roof is the "healthy" thing to do.
The government failing at something doesn't mean that we should give corporations free license to do whatever they want with 0 oversight
Some pretty flawed logic you have going on there
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:01 pm to Powerman
They fail spectacularly....constantly.
Why do you think it's a good idea that society should look to government to tell them what is and what isn't good for them?
Are you worried about your electronics catching fire and burning down your house? A private company, Underwriters Laboratories, does the lions share of testing and setting safety standards for electronics. Why wouldn't that same kind of organization pop up if government got out of the way?
Why do you think it's a good idea that society should look to government to tell them what is and what isn't good for them?
Are you worried about your electronics catching fire and burning down your house? A private company, Underwriters Laboratories, does the lions share of testing and setting safety standards for electronics. Why wouldn't that same kind of organization pop up if government got out of the way?
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:07 pm to Powerman
quote:This is why I didn't give a shite that Clark Griswold's trip was shiity and he got ripped off at every turn.
food companies can add something to a food product and have their own "scientists" declare it generally regarded as safe
Posted on 7/8/26 at 5:45 pm to stuntman
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They fail spectacularly....constantly.
Your argument is essentially that since the government fails at things we shouldn't even have laws
You realize that's ridiculous right?
Posted on 7/8/26 at 6:50 pm to Powerman
Upholding, securing our rights is government's only legitimate role in society.
They aren't our parents. They aren't our guardians. They aren't there to tell us how to live our lives. The mindset you're showing is why society is filled to the teeth w/ people who don't take personal responsibility seriously.
eta; For clarity's sake, philosophically I am an ancap, so yeah, my hate for government runs deep. But, I understand completely that an ancap society isn't in the cards, however, every step towards it is a step in the right direction, and a big step would be for people to finally at least act like they have some sort of distrust of politicians. People say they do, but they certainly never act like it.
They aren't our parents. They aren't our guardians. They aren't there to tell us how to live our lives. The mindset you're showing is why society is filled to the teeth w/ people who don't take personal responsibility seriously.
eta; For clarity's sake, philosophically I am an ancap, so yeah, my hate for government runs deep. But, I understand completely that an ancap society isn't in the cards, however, every step towards it is a step in the right direction, and a big step would be for people to finally at least act like they have some sort of distrust of politicians. People say they do, but they certainly never act like it.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 6:54 pm
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