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When you control House, Senate, and Presidency… why do omnibus bills?

Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:05 pm
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:05 pm
Why not just have single bills for each issue?

Like a 1 pager that extends Trump tax cuts?

Why do they still need to compromise with democrats?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:06 pm to
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Why not just have single bills for each issue?

Like a 1 pager that extends Trump tax cuts?

Why do they still need to compromise with democrats?


What are you talking about? They did this so they DON'T have to compromise with Democrats.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:06 pm to
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Why not just have single bills for each issue?
Sofa King 2024.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:07 pm to
Plus it would take forever and right you’d not get 60 votes
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1269 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:08 pm to
Single bills need 60 votes in senate, come on do research.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:08 pm to
Strangely the Dems never have problems with this, just look at the trillions Obama and Biden spent, ot to mention Obamacare.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:09 pm to
All those single-issue bills would be filibustered in the Senate, and would never get a vote.
This is the silliest talking point right now.
You have to use reconciliation to avoid the filibuster unless you can get a significant number of Democrat votes for it.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:10 pm to
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Plus it would take forever and right you’d not get 60 votes


I’m ignorant on when the senate needs simple majority vs 60 votes.

Why would it “take forever”?
Isnt the taking forever part of the negotiations of massive bills with hundreds of compromises?
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
15599 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:10 pm to
Because simply controlling the senate doesn’t let you pass individual bills with 50+1, you need 60.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
8579 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:10 pm to
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Strangely the Dems never have problems with this, just look at the trillions Obama and Biden spent,


I think it’s fair to say R’s always run on fiscal responsibility and continue to never address it
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2925 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:11 pm to
A single bill needs 60 votes in the Senate !!!!!!!! Why why why , do you think that would pass ? What 7 democrats are voting for it ?
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:12 pm to
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Because simply controlling the senate doesn’t let you pass individual bills with 50+1, you need 60.


60 votes for single bills and 51 votes for omnibus bills? Is this a constitutional thing or just a senate rule thing?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:12 pm to
Because they want to bury stuff in there to help buy votes

Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:12 pm to
They claim it’s because of the filibuster.

The filibuster is a Senate rule- not a Constitutional one- and it can be eliminated at any time.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:12 pm to
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Isnt the taking forever part of the negotiations of massive bills with hundreds of compromises?


No. The taking forever, in this case, is having to deal with blowhards like Thomas Massie.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26326 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:13 pm to
It's the nuclear option. Democrats came up with it
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
22322 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:13 pm to
It’s fair to say that Rs don’t stick together like the Marxist
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18348 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:13 pm to
Filibuster on every single bill
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
15599 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:13 pm to
To most Rs in DC “fiscal responsibility” essentially means spending the tax payer money on shite they support. Not cutting spending.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 10:33 pm
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
19042 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:14 pm to
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They claim it’s because of the filibuster. The filibuster is a Senate rule- not a Constitutional one- and it can be eliminated at any time.


Okay then so it isnt just a “silly talking point”… it is possible, they just dont want to do it.

Does changing a senate rule require 60 votes as well?
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