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re: When you believe Tara Reade but your TDS is still too great

Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:38 pm to
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Maybe he grabbed her butt over her dress. I doubt he fingered her."

"Maybe Kav made a pass at Blowsy, but I doubt he tried to mount her."


This is speculative personal opinion and is factually irrelevant.

You must suck as a lawyer.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73826 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:38 pm to
Who jacked your account.

Cause that's bullshite even by your standers.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19448 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:42 pm to
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I readily admit that I have not followed this as closely as I might
and yet you post your opinion with such authoritative certainty
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:42 pm to
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I readily admit that I have not followed this as closely as I might, because I suspected it was more of the same bullshite that we have been seeing for two decades.


Do your own research counselor.

Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22520 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:47 pm to
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Given the limited objective fact available to us today, do you base your interpretations upon anything other than reasonable inference?


So you believe all women are liars or are not capable of accuratetly descibing past personal events?
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:52 pm to
Hank is learning the hard way the definition of "untenable position"
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:55 pm to
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Do your own research counselor.
It looks like SOMEONE called King about SOMETHING at about that time. No confirmation that it was Reade's mother OR that the topic under discussion was a sexual assault.
quote:

In a "Larry King Live" segment that aired on August 11, 1993, on CNN, an unnamed woman calls in to the show with her location identified on the screen as San Luis Obispo, California. The show was about the cutthroat nature of Washington, DC, politics and media.

"Yes, hello. I'm wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington?" she asks. "My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him."

Larry King responds: "In other words, she had a story to tell but out of respect for the person she worked for, she didn't tell it?"
"That's true," the caller says.

The woman does not mention sexual assault or harassment, nor does she describe in any detail what "problems" she might be referring to. Her daughter's name and Biden are also not mentioned.

In a phone interview with CNN Friday night, Reade told CNN that she is certain the voice in the video belongs to her mother, Jeanette Altimus, who died a few years ago
Interesting, but hardly dispositive. Hell, it probably would not even be admissible.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:57 pm to
Reade has said it was her mother. Timeframe matches. Location matches.

No one, repeat no one, has denied it was her mother.

The only thing you can hang your hat on is she didn't say "rape".

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:58 pm to
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So you believe all women are liars or are not capable of accuratetly descibing past personal events?
You seem to be projecting.

Everyone (male or female) tends to embellish over time. You should have learned this in Psych 101.

I neither believe nor disbelieve in a vacuum. In the absence of dispositive proof, I look to such other evidence as may be available ... certainly including evidence which might not necessarily be admissible in court.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73826 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:59 pm to
Not admissible.
Not in question by me or most others.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
12122 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:59 pm to
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Meh.

Did Biden make a pass at her? Maybe. Did a teen-Kav engage in a drunken grope of Chrissy Blowsy? Possibly.

But I doubt that either incident bore more than a passing resemblance to the monumental event that each woman built-up in her mind over the years.

Stories have heroes and villains, and each of us is the hero of his or her own story.


You have to be a poliboard alter at this point. Your hypocrisy is amazing. Well done on keeping it low key.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Reade has said it was her mother.
Yep.
quote:

Timeframe matches. Location matches.
Which is why it is interesting, but not dispositive.

As I said, this call-in CAN be interpreted as providing support for her claim that SOMETHING happened ... which is also consistent with my initial evaluation.

Again, I am NOT saying that it happened OR that it did not. The call-in gives some credence to the notion that SOMETHING happened. I simply opine that it probably did not happen exactly as she now claims.

Which takes us back to the entertaining scenario in which all Biden opponents are utterly convinced that this DID happen exactly as she claims ... because they don't like Biden.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:02 pm to
Also her brother confirmed, her neighbor confirmed, a former coworker confirmed, and a friend confirmed.

Her level of corroboration for her account of events is waaaaaay greater than "imaginary beach friends" ford.

Hank is either ignorant of the data reported so far or he is being willfully obtuse.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:07 pm to
NYT:
quote:

When Ms. Reade’s brother, Collin Moulton, first spoke to The Washington Post about his sister’s accusations, for instance, he mentioned only that she talked about Mr. Biden touching her neck and shoulders; several days later, Mr. Moulton texted The Post to say that he also recalled her sharing that Mr. Biden had put his hand “under her clothes.”
If the allegations were against Trump, you would not believe the "second story" for one second.

Entertaining.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:07 pm to
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Did a teen-Kav engage in a drunken grope of Chrissy Blowsy? Possibly.

You know good and well that never happened, and was made up out of whole cloth.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:09 pm to
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Which takes us back to the entertaining scenario in which all Biden opponents are utterly convinced that this DID happen exactly as she claims ... because they don't like Biden.


Stop building that strawman.

Read your first post in this thread.

You speculated and you immediately equated an alleged rape to "making a pass" at the victim.

You then dismissed the case on the grounds of "same shite for 20 years"

You then admitted you have not read any of the accounts or facts reported so far.

Now you're building a strawman argument.

You should resign.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:11 pm to
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equated an alleged rape to "making a pass" at the victim.
If this is what you read, you are simply too stupid to be wandering the streets without a designated guardian.
Posted by artisticsavant
Member since Mar 2017
5436 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Lisa Bloom
@LisaBloom
2h

Biden will appoint a progressive female VP, and has a long history of fighting for women’s rights. Trump opposes everything I care about: climate change, human rights, treating immigrants with respect.

I understand Ms. Reade has this same struggle as she opposes Trump too.


On second thought, she can frick off with this dishonest shite. All of it. Treating immigrants with respect is not the same as allowing illegal immigrants to move here and live here. There are legal and illegal ones, and I know exactly the ones she is referring to. But I'm sure she is sponsoring dozens (!!) of them right now.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4525 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:12 pm to
Hank has probably allowed more women to be raped than Bill Clinton
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:13 pm to
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you are simply too stupid to be wandering the streets without a designated guardian


Again with the "nuh-uh dummy" card.

Making the same move over and over to attempt a forced stalemate.

You lost with your fool's opening.
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