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re: When will dumb arse Congress address Squatters?
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:03 am to UncleFestersLegs
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:03 am to UncleFestersLegs
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its a fundamental right
Against GOVERNMENT.
Are these squatters agent of a government?
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specifically mentioned in the constitution that you claim is superceded by local law.
No. What the hell?
Congress only has authority over "interstate commerce" (within this context of this discussion). Property laws in this context are from the state and localities, as they're vested in the powers where Congress lacks power.
All of this is irrelevant, as the Constitution only speaks of this issue as it relates to governmental deprivation of property.
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Quite a path you've chosen
Bro you don't understand first grade-level governmnent/civics.
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:450 billion reasons to laugh
The "defense" is our system of civil courts.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:04 am to UncleFestersLegs
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again the squatters didn't arrest this woman nor allow trespassers to seize her home.
That is a separate scenario. This has already been explained to you.
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You can't seem to find the bad actors here to save your life
Why do you have to boil everything down to "bad actors"?
You don't even understand the elementary basics of this situation yet you're defining everything in this way.
Interesting psychology.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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The "defense" is our system of civil courts.
That's the second line of defense.
The first line is the same as it ever was, the individual.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:She was deprived of her property by the local government.
specifically mentioned in the constitution that you claim is superceded by local law.
No. What the hell?
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:10 am to TrueTiger
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The first line is the same as it ever was, the individual.
That will require the scaling back of some of our criminal laws
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:11 am to UncleFestersLegs
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She was deprived of her property by the local government.
No. She wasn't.
She was deprived of her property by squatters.
She broke the law and was arrested for violation of a criminal statute.
2 completely separate things. Stop trying to merge things irrationally to create a misleading argument. That's illogical.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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That will require the scaling back of some of our criminal laws
Well I'm pretty consistent about freedom of being armed and self defense.
NYC needs a stand your ground law.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:16 am to Geekboy
Whatever power you give the federal govt will be used against you.
I dont know why people havent figured this out yet.
I dont know why people havent figured this out yet.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:17 am to Geekboy
State issue. Frig a central gooooooooooooberment.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:18 am to TrueTiger
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NYC needs a stand your ground law.
That wouldn't help here much unless the squatter attacked the homeowner.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:21 am to dafif
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Shoot away
This is pretty much the only answer.
People should be allowed to use violence to remove a thief who is stealing your home.
I would love most laws to be repealed as long as I have the power to deal with them.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:what gave them the legal right to stay there without being arrested for trespassing?
She was deprived of her property by squatters.
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Whatever power you give the federal govt will be used against you.
Pretty much.
SFP made that point by mentioning Wickard.
I'm sure that in this day and age of FedGov overreach that Congress could do something.
After all FedGov recently engineered a way to prosecute a private citizen for violating the rights of others. Douglas Mackey convicted for making jokes.
If it can do that, surely it could cook up something for squatters.
But do we really want that?
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:26 am to TrueTiger
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I'm sure that in this day and age of FedGov overreach that Congress could do something.
The Patriot Act which came with much fanfare, has been used legally to attack the right based on ideological grounds.
They consider you a threat if you think differently.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
Here in Trinidad the police would simply ask the squatter for his national ID. To get an ID you have to show proof of the address you are listing (power bill,water bill, bank statement). I know the states dont have an ID like all other developed nations, but couldnt the cop ask the same simple question to the two people in question? If one has bills with that address and the other only has a "bogus" lease, well...
Well take him in for breaking and entering, put him in hold up for 24 hours and announce to the others in the cell that you are holding him on suspicion of beating his 8 month pregnant mother, who is a person of color, half to death, and ensure them you will be back to check on the fella....in a few hours.
Course we do things different down here.....and we dont have squatters.
Well take him in for breaking and entering, put him in hold up for 24 hours and announce to the others in the cell that you are holding him on suspicion of beating his 8 month pregnant mother, who is a person of color, half to death, and ensure them you will be back to check on the fella....in a few hours.
Course we do things different down here.....and we dont have squatters.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:39 am to UncleFestersLegs
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what gave them the legal right to stay there without being arrested for trespassing?
Nothing, hence why she was deprived her property by squatters.
The government had no role in that.
However, the government provides an avenue for her to prove this deprivation was illegal: civil courts.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
Is there any situation where I can actually remove a squatter w/o being prosecuted for this act?
Squatting = stealing. If a person gets in my car and tries to drive it away, can I stop him forcibly? If he’s stealing my child, can I stop him? If he’s rattling my back door knob can I cancel him?
Common sense says if you steal my shite, there will be consequences!
Consequences = teachable moments.
Squatting = stealing. If a person gets in my car and tries to drive it away, can I stop him forcibly? If he’s stealing my child, can I stop him? If he’s rattling my back door knob can I cancel him?
Common sense says if you steal my shite, there will be consequences!
Consequences = teachable moments.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:41 am to Stumpknocker
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Is there any situation where I can actually remove a squatter w/o being prosecuted for this act?
With an eviction judgment.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:41 am to trinidadtiger
Practical solutions.
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