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re: When is DOGE going to investigate the USDA and farmers?

Posted on 2/21/25 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3647 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 4:03 pm to
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I hate to break it to you but if all these farmers you hold in such low regard went out of business there would be mass starvation across the U.S.


This is true.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4664 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:33 am to
Damn,I’m on that list.Shows I recieved avg of $1629/year over 25 years
I’m not a farmer,that what I get under the CRP program.I’m part owner in a small tract of what was marginal farmland,my uncle got it on CRP.Almost pays my property taxes on my property and house.

The farmer and his son that have recv’d,the most on the list,I know them pretty well.They’ve gotten close to $120 thousand a year over that time period
They live in nice houses,certainly not mansions.I would guess they have at least $3 million in farming equipment,they have to keep all that shite up.They have some cows also,have to keep up fences and all this nasty weather have to go feed them everyday.No expensive hunting club,hunt on their own land.
Then John Deere bends them over if they have a problem with their equipment.Another guy on the list(he’s averaged $1327.00/a year),was telling me about a rat chewed a wire on his tractor,he could’ve fixed it with .50c piece of wire but it shut down the computer and a technician came out and reset the computer,cost him $ 750.00.

Anyway,I don’t begrudge them that $120 thousand a year,that’s for 2 famiies.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72416 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:06 am to
Yep

Here comes the right getting too extreme

Didn’t want to see it happen, but alas
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43974 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:26 am to
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The government is literally paying my family not to grow cotton because they are wanting to help build ties with countries in Central Asia. USAID is handling the payments to the central Asian countries but the USDA is the one writing the checks to my family members.


But you see, they're paying a cotton growing ag industry to stay on the ready while they use this trade opportunity to nudge central asian powers into the US sphere of influence due to trade dependencies. That's long-game ROI.


Have you been to a rural town in the cotton belt lately? The cotton growing ag industry is dying. My hometown had 5 operating cotton gins in the year 2000. Now we have one. The farmers who used to grow cotton have switched to grain crops. Before the USA started paying farmers not to grow cotton Case and John Deere were moving from traditional cotton pickers to module building cotton pickers. Case has completely stopped making module building cotton pickers and is focussing on building traditional cotton pickers. That means that a cotton farmer has to have extra tractors and labor to operate boll buggies and module builders in order to use them. That is added expense and John Deere has dominated the module building cotton picker business but they cost damn near a million dollars or more to buy and John Deere doesn't have the capacity to keep up if there is a surge in cotton picker demand. The farmers who have gotten out of the cotton game can't afford to buy back in and even if they could the production capability is not there. Since new production has been low for the past 15 years or so there is not a lot equipment on the used equipment market to buy either. Nope. The USDA has paid for the USA give the cotton industry to other countries.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36071 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:27 am to
You want true whiny welfare queens.....farmers.
Posted by Nome tiger
Member since Nov 2014
170 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:41 am to
Do tell who are these “corporate farms” I’ve worked in Ag for 25 years and I’ve only run across a handful of truly corporate farms. King Ranch, Del Monte, Simplot and Deseret Ranches are the ones I can think of off hand. Most of your veggies and fruit are grown by smaller family farms on contract for larger packers that may go by a “farm” name. Taylor Farms a large lettuce supplier is an example.

You do realize the vast majority of families incorporate their farming operations to take advantage of tax code and avoid government payment limitations? My family has 5 different corporations we farm under (100% family owned by various different family members) and we are considered small for our area of the Delta.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14498 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:44 am to
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I doubt they'll go hard after farmers but will take a hard look at how we subsidize corn


There are millions of acreage of perfectly good farm land being subsidized by the U.S. government to allow corn to die for ethanol. Could be used for a better purpose. Like feeding Americans.
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