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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?

Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:24 pm to
Here's the bottom line.

The woman committed an action that ended up placing another person in harm's way.

Bama wants that woman to be able to murder that other person because reasons
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:24 pm to
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in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney is the baby


In my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.

You're fine with the state violating those rights for pregnant women, but not kidney donors. Why?
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Who's rights to bodily autonomy are violated if your child continues living?



stop feeding it for a month and you'll quickly find out
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39567 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:25 pm to
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"well you see, this other being inside of her that isn't part of her body, somehow is part of her body, even though it's completely different, genetically"



Basically

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:25 pm to
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because reasons


That move and shift and change with nearly every post.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21093 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

The woman committed an action that ended up placing another person in harm's way. Bama wants that woman to be able to murder that other person because reasons
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney


In my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.

You're fine with the state violating those rights for pregnant women, but not kidney donors. Why?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

You're fine with the state violating those rights for pregnant women, but not kidney donors. Why?




You know this argument is stupid, don't you?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41189 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:26 pm to
The difference between progressives and conservatives is one is for personal responsibility and one is not
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

In my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.

All analogies have to sides to them. The example, and the analogous object.

You are trying to mix them.

The state won't let me kill you for your kidney.

The state also shouldn't let me kill you because you inconvenience me.

In both cases, the state is RECOGNIZING bodily autonomy.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:26 pm to
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the problem is that the state isn't forcing women to carry babies. science is


The state is forcing them not to use science to end the pregnancy if they so choose. That's the state forcing them to carry babies.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney


Again, in my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.

You're fine with the state violating those rights for pregnant women, but not kidney donors. Why?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Again, in my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.

Again, that you suck at constructing analogies that make sense isn't my problem

All analogies have to sides to them. The example, and the analogous object.

You are trying to mix them.

The state won't let me kill you for your kidney.

The state also shouldn't let me kill you because you inconvenience me.

In both cases, the state is RECOGNIZING bodily autonomy.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney


Again, In my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.

You're fine with the state violating those rights for pregnant women, but not kidney donors. Why?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41189 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

end the pregnancy


Because ending the pregnancy results in a life being lost. It’s illegal to use science to end another’s persons life
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5333 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

In my analogy nobody dies unless the state respects the right to bodily autonomy.


A homo sapien doesn't die in a successful abortion?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Again, that you suck at constructing analogies that make sense isn't my problem

All analogies have to sides to them. The example, and the analogous object.

You are trying to mix them.

The state won't let me kill you for your kidney.

The state also shouldn't let me kill you because you inconvenience me.

In both cases, the state is RECOGNIZING bodily autonomy.


I should add that the state DAMNED SURE shouldn't let me kill you because you inconvenience me if the only reason you're inconveniencing me is because of MY actions!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41189 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

should add that the state DAMNED SURE shouldn't let me kill you because you inconvenience me if the only reason you're inconveniencing me is because of MY actions!


God damn. This is succinctly put
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:29 pm to
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The state is forcing them not to use science to end the pregnancy

"to end the pregnancy" very well may be murder, and that's clearly something most allow the state to punish

you're trying to argue that since women have to carry baby humans, they should be given an exception to the regulations of murder

your analogy makes no sense in this context b/c you're either trying to be completely dishonest (by claiming that a baby human is somehow part of the mother's body) or throwing a temper tantrum (because humans evolved for women to carry baby humans until birth)

so you choose: are you being dishonest or arguing with science?

clearly the culprit is NOT the state
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:29 pm to
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What right is she losing the ability to do to her body?


End a pregnancy at the time of her choosing.
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