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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:57 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:57 am to ShortyRob
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Hell, babies aren't viable outside the womb for quite some time on their own..........
That's not what viability means in this context. You know that. Be better.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:57 am to ShortyRob
quote:Shorty, she isn't going to answer because she can't provide anything to substantiate her BS. Perhaps if she did, we might be enlightened
Thread is 22 pages. Question still stands
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:57 am to BamaAtl
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Why have the Dems not put forth a law allowing abortions ONLY under the exceptions you list and outlaw it for convenience?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:58 am to BamaAtl
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Not when the one being kept alive is being done so at the expense of bodily autonomy for the other.
Nice try. But in your kidney analogy, the person you want to kill for their kidney played NO ROLE WHATSOEVER in the fact you need a kidney.
Again, your problem is, you don't recognize that in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney is the baby and, the person doing the killing is the mom.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:58 am to BamaAtl
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the rights of the fetus supersede her rights.
your rights supersede mine because I am not allowed to strangle you
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:59 am to VoxDawg
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No, sex doesn't always end in pregnancy, but it is the one thing that can cause it.
IVF. You'd do better not to traffic in absolutes - this isn't the Q thread where anyone who points out your bullshite has their post deleted and gets a DM about not pissing off the idiots.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:59 am to BamaAtl
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So she can't do whatever the frick she likes with her body - the rights of the fetus supersede her rights.
Why?
For the same reason your right to stay alive supersedes my right to kill you for your kidneys.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:59 am to ShortyRob
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there is no functional difference 1 week outside the womb versus 2 weeks prior to that point other than location.
A 6-week old fetus removed from the womb and one that wasn't would look fundamentally VERY different 2 weeks later.
I think we can all agree on that.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:59 am to BamaAtl
quote:Well then, you placed viability at fricking womb exit...........be better
That's not what viability means in this context. You know that. Be better.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:00 pm to mtntiger
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We honestly don't care what the woman does with HER body.
Unless she chooses not to continue a pregnancy - which affects HER body.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:00 pm to BamaAtl
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A 6-week old fetus removed from the womb and one that wasn't would look fundamentally VERY different 2 weeks later.
I think we can all agree on that.
A baby born tomorrow will look pretty much exactly the same as it did yesterday.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:01 pm to BamaAtl
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Unless she chooses not to continue a pregnancy - which affects HER body.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:01 pm to BamaAtl
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Why have the Dems not put forth a law allowing abortions ONLY under the exceptions you list and outlaw it for convenience?
I’ve got it saved in copy and paste. Answer the question
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:01 pm to BamaAtl
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Unless she chooses not to continue a pregnancy - which affects HER body.
Again, your problem is, you don't recognize that in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney is the baby and, the person doing the killing is the mom.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:01 pm to BamaAtl
weak sauce - git that shite outta here - would rather have diluted ketchup than this red watery shite.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:01 pm to BamaAtl
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Jesus
Didn't get aborted until 1720+ weeks or so, so....
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:02 pm to FooManChoo
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In one scenario, a person doesn't have to do anything at all in order for two people to live.
Not true at all - they have to carry a baby to term, which carries a whole host of risks.
The question wasn't really about action vs inaction, though - it was about state mandating a choice.
Why are you okay with the state mandating one choice, but not the other? Lives are involved in both cases.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:02 pm to BamaAtl
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Unless she chooses not to continue a pregnancy - which affects HER body.
Her body and the child's body are intertwined for the duration of the pregnancy. No way around it.
Yes, for the duration of the pregnancy, the childs right to life trumps the mothers right to have a vacuum stuck up her snatch.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:02 pm to BamaAtl
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Not true at all - they have to carry a baby to term, which carries a whole host of risks.
The question wasn't really about action vs inaction, though - it was about state mandating a choice.
Why are you okay with the state mandating one choice, but not the other? Lives are involved in both cases.
Again, your problem is, you don't recognize that in your analogy, the person being killed for their kidney is the baby and, the person doing the killing is the mom.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:02 pm to DemonKA3268
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Always moving the goalposts
It's not moving the goalposts when you have to drag them back to their original place because some of you either don't understand the term or are purposefully redefining it so your arguments are only 50% as bad.
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