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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?

Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:44 am to
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violated her rights and killed it without her consent.


The murder charge for killing a baby doesn't rely on consent from the mother any more than it does viability. A women can't, legally, hire someone to kill her and her unborn baby....despite your belief in her "autonomy". If she does so, the person who committed the act will be charged with two murders...viable fetus or not..consent or not.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:44 am to
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If that were the 100% guaranteed outcome and if contraception were widely available and 100% effective and if rape/abuse never happened, sure.

But none of that happens in that way, so we have to account for uncertainty. Clearly.


so then you would be fine with limiting abortion to pregnancies caused by rape?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
61998 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:44 am to
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When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?



When the decision affects two bodies.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:44 am to
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And just like that, we're at the part where we try to use the exception to prove the rule.


If you don't consider all scenarios, you're just trying to legislate like a moron. Which I know is a hallmark of Republicans, but we can all try to help you to be better.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:45 am to
It's about time for Bamatool to run off to urinalysis cups.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:45 am to
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Well, let's go ahead and kill the terminally ill.
Keep in mind BamaSJW is in favor of government-run healthcare to “save money”.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
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So again, am I allowed to walk into an ICU and start killing people who are on life support?


People who are surviving with medical intervention =/= a fetus at 6 weeks.

You guys are so slow today.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25753 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
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"grave risk to the life of the mother" isn't all we're talking about here. There are many more risks involved with pregnancy than death.


You said earlier in the thread there were no exceptions...you haven't read the bill have you?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83309 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
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but we can all try to help you to be better.


Brilliant!
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
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If you don't consider all scenarios, you're just trying to legislate like a moron. Which I know is a hallmark of Republicans, but we can all try to help you to be better.



There is no legislation. The current state of affairs is the result of three dishonest logically bankrupt court decisions. They will be relegated to Plessy status soon, but not soon enough.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25753 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
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People who are surviving with medical intervention =/= a fetus at 6 weeks.

You guys are so slow today.


In many state, when it comes to murder charges for someone ending their life, they do =.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45447 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:47 am to
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She has the right to not have her bodily autonomy superseded by another.
Her right to do what she wants with her body is most certainly superseded by the right of another person to exist.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44675 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:47 am to
This isnt about the rights women have for controlling their body. That straw man needs to be put to rest. Women absolutely have control of their own body. They can control, almost entirely, if they get pregnant. They control if they choose to take a morning after pill to prevent unwanted pregnancies. They choose to know or not know about the possibility of pregnancy within 3 weeks of sexual contact - before there is a detectable heartbeat.

This is about murder. If it has a heartbeat, it’s alive. Your rights end when they disrupt the basic right to life of someone else.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14977 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:47 am to
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If you don't consider all scenarios, you're just trying to legislate like a moron. Which I know is a hallmark of Republicans, but we can all try to help you to be better.


What a load of crap! Earlier I asked if we consider all cases and make abortion legal for cases of rape and health of the mother is compromised. And you still wanted to support abortions for convenience.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 10:50 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:48 am to
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you're just trying to legislate like a moron.


Why do you and your fellow Democrats support policies that will result in the suffering and starvation of millions of children?

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62176 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:48 am to
Bamaatl thinks we live in Papua New Guinea where contraception isn't available and some people aren't even sure what causes pregnancy
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:49 am to
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If someone beat you about the head and face, would describe thst assailant as “maintaining bodily autonomy”?


That's a pretty good explanation of why one person's rights don't supersede another's.

Now apply it to abortion, and you're almost there!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124833 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:49 am to
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non-sapient organism


I’d ask what your definition is of this as your continued usage of it demonstrates some pretty serious stupidity. But there’s no real reason to engage with you in any way other than pointing and laughing.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62176 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:50 am to
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That's a pretty good explanation of why one person's rights don't supersede another's.

Now apply it to abortion,
Uhhhh...
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:50 am to
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so then you would be fine with limiting abortion to pregnancies caused by rape?


If you believe that, you've clearly not been reading the thread.
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