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When are riots justified?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:01 pm
And I’m not talking about burning down private businesses or houses or looting. There is a point where riots are justified. It’s why we have the 2nd Amendment. This man was fricking murdered by a frickhead who got away with killing a Native American years ago with no major ramifications as far as I can see.
The system failed George Floyd when he was doing something as small as forging checks. Did we do this shite to Bernie Madoff who did far, far worse than this? Someone who lights a police car on fire over this when their taxpaying dollars went to that car I can’t say I exactly blame them. Yeah, no riots are justified outside of MN over this... but there’s a point.
The Boston Massacre which we still remember started with the deaths of 5 people. The Founding Fathers had riots in mind when they wrote the Constitution. Yeah they’re technically illegal, but there’s a point where we have to violently turn against the government. What’s the line? Curious what people here have to say.
The system failed George Floyd when he was doing something as small as forging checks. Did we do this shite to Bernie Madoff who did far, far worse than this? Someone who lights a police car on fire over this when their taxpaying dollars went to that car I can’t say I exactly blame them. Yeah, no riots are justified outside of MN over this... but there’s a point.
The Boston Massacre which we still remember started with the deaths of 5 people. The Founding Fathers had riots in mind when they wrote the Constitution. Yeah they’re technically illegal, but there’s a point where we have to violently turn against the government. What’s the line? Curious what people here have to say.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 10:26 pm
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:05 pm to OMLandshark
If they cancel football in the south, we’ll see.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:08 pm to OMLandshark
Riots with a purpose.
Blow up cop cars
Burn down government buildings
Attack the mayors office
After the Boston Massacre we didnt go into the Harbor and light your neighbors ship on fire.
Blow up cop cars
Burn down government buildings
Attack the mayors office
After the Boston Massacre we didnt go into the Harbor and light your neighbors ship on fire.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:10 pm to TigerCruise
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Riots with a purpose.
Blow up cop cars
Burn down government buildings
Attack the mayors office
After the Boston Massacre we didnt go into the Harbor and light your neighbors ship on fire.
Yep, that’s all I’m saying. Destroying private businesses or someone’s home is not what the Founders had in mind. They did have in mind us burning down the Capitol though.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:10 pm to OMLandshark
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When are riots justified?
In a civilized society?
They’re not. Don’t try to justify this.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:11 pm to OMLandshark
TD shutting down.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:12 pm to OMLandshark
The fricking "extreme right" Fox News is right now all but justifying this shite.
frick them
frick them
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:12 pm to Godfather1
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In a civilized society?
They’re not. Don’t try to justify this.
If our government went Maoist, it’d be our civic duty to burn it down. I think it’s in the Chinese people’s civic duty to burn their government buildings to the ground and kill their officials over what is going on over there.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:16 pm to gthog61
I can understand riots in countries where there actual 2nd and 3rd class citizens. In America - even our poor are better off than most countries in the world. Rioting in America is the stupidest shite. Not saying people don't experience bad things in life but it could always be worse. The sad thing is you can have 60 murdered unjustly in Chicago on a weekend and no one bats a fricking eye and the second a cop does something stupid and he happens to be white - you just gave the media the republicans are racist talking point for a fricking month. Stupid fricking cop will get his just due but it's us that gets blamed for it because of our skin color. It's not right.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:16 pm to OMLandshark
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What’s the line? Curious what people here have to say.
Jefferson spoke to it.
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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation….
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.****
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:17 pm to OMLandshark
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If our government went Maoist, it’s be our civic duty to burn it down. I think it’s in the Chinese people’s civic duty to burn their government buildings to the ground and kill their officials over what is going on over there.
Maybe so.
And maybe it’s just a matter of semantics, but THAT would be revolution.
But that’s not what’s happening here. Innocent people, who had nothing to do whatsoever with what that POS cop did, are being harmed. THAT is rioting.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:17 pm to OMLandshark
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George Flynn
Who dis? Is there going to be more riots for this one too?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:18 pm to OMLandshark
If mail in ballots are allowed
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:20 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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I can understand riots in countries where there actual 2nd and 3rd class citizens. In America - even our poor are better off than most countries in the world.
But the Chinese can say the same. They’re living in extreme prosperity compared to their ancestors. So what if the government kills a few dozen journalists and doctors? If you’re Han, save for your civil liberties, no better time to be a Han Chinese person than right now. I still think they have a civic duty to overthrow their evil government. Same as a German living in the mid-1930s through early 1940s.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:20 pm to TigerCruise
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Riots with a purpose.
Blow up cop cars
Burn down government buildings
Attack the mayors office
You're describing an insurgency. Riots are usually responses to specific events that don't have that much planning.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:21 pm to BoarEd
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Jefferson spoke to it.
Jefferson would have burned down this country 10 times over by now if we were going by his standard.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:21 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah they’re technically illegal, but there’s a point where we have to violently turn against the government. What’s the line?
Agree with the spirit of your post. The 2 things that piss me off with the Minnesota situation is that BLM and the race pimps will ensure that this will be framed as a black vs white issue instead of the citizen vs government issue it deserves to be, and also that yet again only private property will be targeted by the riots.
There is a time and a place for this kind of reaction, but it should be directed entirely against the government.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:21 pm to OMLandshark
When the govt has taken away the ability of people to worship, conduct commerce, gather in groups as they see fit, earn a living....
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:22 pm to OMLandshark
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Jefferson would have burned down this country 10 times over by now if we were going by his standard.
Exactly. We have gotten lazy.
The constitutional standard would be something like:
1. If the government is killing it's own citizens.
2. If the government is restricting your ability to move as you see fit.
3. If the government is trying to restrict or control how you go about making your living or telling you how to worship.
Imo
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:22 pm to OMLandshark
I agree.
However...dont destroy your community in the process. Then you just hurt those you are out there to help.
However...dont destroy your community in the process. Then you just hurt those you are out there to help.
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