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re: What's more dangerous floating around in the bay?

Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:47 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138784 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:47 am to
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The whole point of handing out single use needles is to slow the spread of HIV and hepatitis
Nitwits with good intentions rarely lead to good result. Free and accessible single use needles may slow the spread of HIV and hepatitis among addicts themselves, but without disposal requirements, proliferation of contaminated needles and syringes puts everyone else at risk.
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HIV can't survive in the bay

Of course HIV can survive in the bay, fool.
Whether in the bay or next to a SF sidewalk bowel movement, HIV can survive in syringes for up to six weeks. Hepatitis C is detectable for two months.


So MIZ_COU, a word to the wise .... and to you too:
You needn't "attempt to think like a Yankee," but you should at least "attempt to think." Before trying to sell hyperbole like "plastic shopping bag trees," you should consider how such puerile nonsense undercuts what could be a viable argument.
Posted by CaptEasy
Panama City Beach
Member since Feb 2018
687 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:27 am to
“The whole point of handing out single use needles is to slow the spread of HIV and hepatitis and other blood borne diseases.”



Or stop taking it up the arse. That would also work
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 6:29 am
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:37 am to
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MIZ_COU


My good buddy from Iowa once lived in Missouri for 3 months but he won’t admit it. I’ve driven through your shithole state a couple of times going from Atlanta to Colorado and the only thing that I remember is the excessive number of billboards touting adult stores at every exit. WTF?!

Check your Northern ethnocentrism at the door.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:41 am to
All the left wants is to control all people and taking straws is control and drug addiction is great with left because drug addicts are easy to control

Evil is the Democrat Party!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:55 am to
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Another post in my series


Another "drop a shite post and haul arse" is more like it. Posters like you deserve to be banned for not sticking around to argue your point.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13051 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:59 am to
And, those syringes are made of plastic with metal needles. Prolly real easy to recycle...
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:12 am to
You're not a serious person.
So much dumb in your comment.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:23 am to
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I'm on the side of elimination of most plastics including single use plastics


So should we go back to steel dashboards and steel bumpers on cars. Many other components of cars and trucks make them lighter and increase gas mileage. Should we just toss out the byproducts of fossil fuel production that plastics come from and shut down those production plants? Get rid of the medical products that consist of plastics, etc, etc?

What, again, would be the purpose of "elimination of most plastics"?
Whats the point?
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 7:25 am
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43726 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:27 am to
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(400,000) Good God. Is that a legit number?

LINK: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Why-San-Francisco-is-stuck-with-a-deluge-of-12952111.php
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San Francisco hands out more free syringes to drug addicts — 400,000 a month and growing — than New York City, which has 10 times the population.

The San Francisco Department of Public Health oversaw the distribution of an estimated 4.5 million syringes last year, through various programs aimed at reducing HIV transmission and other health risks for injection drug users. Many of the needles wind up discarded on city streets, in parks and at homeless encampments. And they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to retrieve.

This year, the city is on track to hand out upward of 6 million syringes — which, with a city population of 884,363, works out to nearly seven syringes for every man, woman and child living here.

New York, by comparison, distributed 3.48 million syringes in 2016, according to the New York City Department of Public Health. In the first nine months of 2017, the latest data available, New York gave out 2.98 million, putting the city in line to hand out 3.7 million for the full year — one needle for every two residents.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:48 am to
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400,000 needles a month to drug addicts of which 60% each month end up on sidewalks or being washed into The Bay.


Find you a sea turtle with needles stuck in it...
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5247 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:50 am to
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But you can't argue it by comparing it to plastic straws


the OP can and did compare the two. Stop being so dense. Clearly a syringe and a plastic straw are both single use plastic items. no idea why you went on an aids sidetrack.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43726 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:18 pm to
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ahh another common sense is what tells you the world is flat post. If only things were as simple as the way you southern belles think.

HIV can't survive in the bay so I'm not sure what your point is there (neither are you).

So, apparently HIV can survive in The Bay.

Blood tissue is drawn back into the syringe before injecting the drug .... thus the HIV/AIDS virus is drawn into the syringe.

Blood tissue then dries and closes the needle. The piston is, by nature, the sealing mechanism inside the syringe barrel so it prevents seawater from flooding the chamber.

The needles float in water but remain just subsurface along the beaches in the sand.

The real problem is that these needles are not only trashing San Fransisco parks and beaches but they are also showing up all along the entire west coast from Baja Mexico to Portland Oregon up into Canada and even along the shores of Alaska.

So San Fran's liberal socialist progressive policies are negatively affecting the entire western edge of two continents to include multiple countries and countless species of wildlife.

The needles will be floating to a shore in Asia sometime soon I would imagine.

Now Miss_Coose .... can you imagine what you libs might say were the shoe on the other foot? If Conservative politics were having this sort of direct and immediate negative impact on the environment?
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