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re: What you are seeing is a coup
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:00 pm to Scoop
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:00 pm to Scoop
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The crew is out tonight but stay frosty. They will make fun of you. You are right. Juxtaposing the Hillary investigation against this one tells you all you need to know.
All they have is emoji arguments, muh pornstars, muh collusion. Their ideas suck and always fail. Hell they've given up on actual ideas, just class warfare and fighting for pervert men who want to use the ladies restroom.
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:01 pm to MastrShake
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maybe thats why a judge he appointed signed off on todays raid.
Yeah like the FISA judges signed off on fake shite too?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:04 pm to texag7
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Load your mags
Seriously, we're just about there.
If these corrupt deep state fricks somehow manage to pull-off this banana republic type coup on our elected POTUS ... and they have been trying since he won the election ... then it will be time to load mags.
This bullshite is so outta hand it is beyond wrong, it's heinous and those supporting this bullshite on both sides, they should be the first to go.
This is an absolute disgrace and, if the Never Trumpers somehow manage to pull it off, if he is removed from office over this bullshite ... then it will be the end of our country as we know it.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:04 pm to MastrShake
I didn't vote for Trump and likely never will vote for any Republican candidate who isn't Rand Paul or Justin Amash.
What we've seen over the past year and a half should frighten everyone. We have a President being investigated by a special counsel without proof of any underlying crime. We now have the office of the President's lawyer being raided for an alleged FEC violation, when there is sworn testimony of the exact same thing being done by Trump's opponent. We have a Special Counsel who has an unfettered scope and zero accountability spending millions of dollars on a fishing expedition to either find crimes or create them.
We have politicians now claiming the FBI is an independent branch of government and that the FBI director cannot be fired by the President. Do they want us to emulate Turkey or Pakistan by having a military or law enforcement apparatus that exists outside of civilian control?
It should be clear to anyone who isn't a partisan that this is retaliation for Trump defeating the heir apparent of the political class and media establishment. There is a reason we have the world's most pervasive surveillance apparatus. There is a reason both parties support the NSA. It allows for classified and secretive opposition research on those in politics and allows for subsequent control over their decisions via blackmail and intimidation. Trump was a billionaire outsider, and those were his two biggest crimes.
What we've seen over the past year and a half should frighten everyone. We have a President being investigated by a special counsel without proof of any underlying crime. We now have the office of the President's lawyer being raided for an alleged FEC violation, when there is sworn testimony of the exact same thing being done by Trump's opponent. We have a Special Counsel who has an unfettered scope and zero accountability spending millions of dollars on a fishing expedition to either find crimes or create them.
We have politicians now claiming the FBI is an independent branch of government and that the FBI director cannot be fired by the President. Do they want us to emulate Turkey or Pakistan by having a military or law enforcement apparatus that exists outside of civilian control?
It should be clear to anyone who isn't a partisan that this is retaliation for Trump defeating the heir apparent of the political class and media establishment. There is a reason we have the world's most pervasive surveillance apparatus. There is a reason both parties support the NSA. It allows for classified and secretive opposition research on those in politics and allows for subsequent control over their decisions via blackmail and intimidation. Trump was a billionaire outsider, and those were his two biggest crimes.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:06 pm to MastrShake
quote:what is the crime, genius?
maybe trump is just a criminal surrounded by other criminals.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:07 pm to SCLibertarian
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SCLibertarian
Amen ... well stated.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:16 pm to SCLibertarian
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I didn't vote for Trump and likely never will vote for any Republican candidate who isn't Rand Paul or Justin Amash.
What we've seen over the past year and a half should frighten everyone. We have a President being investigated by a special counsel without proof of any underlying crime. We now have the office of the President's lawyer being raided for an alleged FEC violation, when there is sworn testimony of the exact same thing being done by Trump's opponent. We have a Special Counsel who has an unfettered scope and zero accountability spending millions of dollars on a fishing expedition to either find crimes or create them.
We have politicians now claiming the FBI is an independent branch of government and that the FBI director cannot be fired by the President. Do they want us to emulate Turkey or Pakistan by having a military or law enforcement apparatus that exists outside of civilian control?
It should be clear to anyone who isn't a partisan that this is retaliation for Trump defeating the heir apparent of the political class and media establishment. There is a reason we have the world's most pervasive surveillance apparatus. There is a reason both parties support the NSA. It allows for classified and secretive opposition research on those in politics and allows for subsequent control over their decisions via blackmail and intimidation. Trump was a billionaire outsider, and those were his two biggest crimes.
....all to put Mike Pence and "mother" in charge?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:17 pm to scrooster
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Seriously, we're just about there.
If these corrupt deep state fricks somehow manage to pull-off this banana republic type coup on our elected POTUS ... and they have been trying since he won the election ... then it will be time to load mags.
This bullshite is so outta hand it is beyond wrong, it's heinous and those supporting this bullshite on both sides, they should be the first to go.
This is an absolute disgrace and, if the Never Trumpers somehow manage to pull it off, if he is removed from office over this bullshite ... then it will be the end of our country as we know it.
What if perpetual Trump nuthugger Mike Pence tells you not to? Quite the conundrum.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:24 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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....all to put Mike Pence and "mother" in charge?
This isn't about ideology. There are maybe a handful of truly revolutionary politicians in Washington. This is about using opposition research and our massive surveillance apparatus to effectively control politicians. Trump isn't a politician and never has been. Pence was a Congressman for over a decade. You think we have the NSA to spy on third-world Muslim radicals? We have it to spy on our politicians in Washington to keep them in line with promoting American orthodoxies that make the rich even richer.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:31 pm to SCLibertarian
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This isn't about ideology. There are maybe a handful of truly revolutionary politicians in Washington. This is about using opposition research and our massive surveillance apparatus to effectively control politicians. Trump isn't a politician and never has been. Pence was a Congressman for over a decade. You think we have the NSA to spy on third-world Muslim radicals? We have it to spy on our politicians in Washington to keep them in line with promoting American orthodoxies that make the rich even richer.
As a libertarian, I'm sure you have an inherent distrust of American institutions. I mean, that's pretty much libertarianism in a nutshell, really.
Given that trait, can you point to other examples in the recent past of what you believe were abuses of the surveillance apparatus to control politicians? I'm not talking about the conspiratorial Bilderberg, Illuminati bullshite either. What has Trump done to make you believe that he's NOT looking to make the rich richer? For that matter, which specific policy positions does Trump hold that takes him far outside the mainstream of either party?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:43 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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....all to put Mike Pence and "mother" in charge?
Pence isn't the embodiment of a vastly unexpected and different political viewpoint
Replacing Trump with Pence would be an ideological and psychological victory for them
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:45 pm to Delacroix22
There will be blood if they come for TRUMP - that I can tell you.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:53 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Given that trait, can you point to other examples in the recent past of what you believe were abuses of the surveillance apparatus to control politicians?
John Roberts's deciding vote in determining the constitutionality of the individual mandate provision of the Affordable Care Act.
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What has Trump done to make you believe that he's NOT looking to make the rich richer? For that matter, which specific policy positions does Trump hold that takes him far outside the mainstream of either party?
His policy position on Syria is pretty much a deviation from American foreign policy orthodoxy. I think Trump scares the hell out of the foreign policy hawks who dominate both parties. The neocons hate him and, given his personal wealth, he isn't beholden to any war hawks or the MIC for campaign contributions. This is the same Trump who opposed the War in Iraq. He's no Ron or Rand Paul, but his instincts often threaten the defense contractor gravy train.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:54 pm to JuiceTerry
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It's the end of the world as we know it And I feel fine
Big Pence fan are ya?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:57 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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For that matter, which specific policy positions does Trump hold that takes him far outside the mainstream of either party?
Are you serious bro? Neither party agrees with him on illegal immigration. That was fricking easy.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:00 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:How so?
His policy position on Syria is pretty much a deviation from American foreign policy orthodoxy
He's about to bomb the shite out of them with no proof of who is responsible for a dubious chemical attack.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:01 pm to Delacroix22
And they would then turn the wrath towards President Pence. Drudge up jaywalking infractions and speeding tickets from the 90s forward in an effort to then bounce him. Trump is their first target, not their only target.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:09 pm to Delacroix22
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If this was happening to Hillary there would be riots and marches and civil unrest
It happened to Hillary and Bill for 8 years. How did Starr go from Whitewater to Paula Jones (both of which occurred before his presidency) to Monica Lewinsky?
Independent Counsels cost the govt $80 million but no civil unrest or sky screamers (like you) LINK
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:12 pm to JuiceTerry
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He's about to bomb the shite out of them with no proof of who is responsible for a dubious chemical attack.
If this was Bush or Clinton in office we'd be in a full-scale ground war in Syria. However, Trump's appointment of John Bolton makes me think war is coming. And being one of the most anti-war posters on this board, that will push me away with the quickness.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:18 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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What if perpetual Trump nuthugger Mike Pence tells you not to? Quite the conundrum.
It's not a conundrum in the least.
If they somehow manage to pull this crime off ... then it is the end of this country as we know it.
No duly elected POTUS will ever be safe again ... especially those with Conservative agendas.
Matter of fact, the only saving grace right now might end-up being in the SCOTUS. The way this is going right now, and this is rarely mentioned, but the only saving grace might be if some of these Mueller tactics end-up being challenged in the courts and it ends up with the SCOTUS.
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